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To: Jvette

Once again you and others fail greatly in not addressing what quotes were presented...let alone re-post them and comment accordingly....you have failed to defend your church. Further you are mistaken to say the catholic church doesn’t “officially “ worship Mary. Check the Vatican site and you will see otherwise.


3,471 posted on 12/10/2011 9:34:54 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

What is your obsession with 300 year old pious Catholics who revere Mary? Why do you and other protestants persist in looking up antique texts from another era to ridicule?

Are you trying to force Catholics to admit they worship Mary, when we don’t? Are you calling us liars?

How many times do we have to say it? We do not worship Mary. We don’t. She is a model for all Christians. Falsehood cannot change our beliefs.


3,475 posted on 12/10/2011 9:48:12 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: caww

****Once again you and others fail greatly in not addressing what quotes were presented...let alone re-post them and comment accordingly....you have failed to defend your church. Further you are mistaken to say the catholic church doesn’t “officially “ worship Mary. Check the Vatican site and you will see otherwise.*****

The quotes you redacted are quite lengthy and I have not found them online in a format from which I can cut and paste to here.

I did comment on the entire work and encourage those who are truly interested to read St. Ligouri’s work, starting with the notices and introductions that are at the beginning of it.

Ironic, that you would insist that I repost the entire quotes when you did not feel the need to do so when you first brought them into the conversation.

I am not mistaken regarding the “worship” of Mary. Her glories, as St. Ligouri says begins with her cooperation with Go’s will and desire to use her as the means by which the Salvation of the world would come to us.

Once again, you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the Church and Mary’s role in the salvation of sinners.

I have no problem with that, it is not something a protestant can understand unless one opens one’s heart to her in a way that most protestants can’t.

My problem and objection as I have said over and over is the way you brought St. Ligouri into the conversation, i.e. a shotgun blast meant to wound and not to edify, and then to enjoy the aftermath.

I have no time to go chasing down such voluminous quotes, reprint them and in my mostly inadequate way, defend them to someone who has no desire to read what I might write, and who’s original intent was not to post the quotes but just enough to further the anti Catholic agenda.

One cannot read “The Glories of Mary” without first knowing the author, reading the introduction, knowing the history behind the many previous doctors and theologians he quotes and uses as resource.

To do all of this, in order to defend it, I would have to post large portions of all of that from the book itself.

St. Ligouri does a fine job of defending and explaining himself and for those who want to know the entire story there is a pdf version of the book one can download for free.


3,485 posted on 12/10/2011 10:28:31 AM PST by Jvette
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