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To: Rashputin; CynicalBear; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Being a part of the New Covenant, what Jude warns about is as true today as it was under the Old Covenant, and Jude warns us about a heresy that still is common, the heresy of, "the priesthood of all believers".

Are you calling PETER a heretic or accusing him of teaching heresy?

Because HE'S the one telling us that we're a royal priesthood, a holy nation.

1 Peter 2:1-10 1 So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. 2 Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation— 3if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good.

4As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6For it stands in Scripture:

"Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame."

7So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,

"The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone," 8and "A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense." They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

9But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

2,950 posted on 12/06/2011 9:26:54 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Which books of the Bible did you throw out today?

Everyone is free to interpret Scriptures to suit their own preconceptions and the first sentence of #2950 beginning with "Are you ... : proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Scripture does not contradict Scripture, I did not contradict Scripture, but apparently some people cannot read and understand a simple sentence or two in the Book of Jude and see that warning against a heresy that rises again and again isn't in any way contradicting Peter. No way, no how, no time, and not to anyone who understands Scripture rather than twisting Scriptures to suit the personal preconceptions they built their own personal religion of Self around.

Just like some folks pretend there is no Church, they pretend there are no shepherds to guide us, teach us, and bless the Eucharist for the sheep to share in. They have to build heresy on heresy once they insist that Jesus Christ was either too stupid to say what he meant or that Jesus Christ was lying when He said, "My Flesh", and "My Blood". It's that simple, blindness begets blindness until those who have built their own personal religion of Self on their abbreviated version of the Bible cannot resist piling one warped and twisted fable on top of their last tortured and twisted fantasy that allows them to claim they are equal in every way to the Holy Spirit.

The individual being their own final authority in all things due to their needing only Scripture and no shepherd is found nowhere in the Bible but those who pursue that single lie end up denying the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, that Christ is completely Man and completely God, and top even that horrible insult to Christ by proclaiming that the Holy Spirit is not a part of the Trinity, God from God, Light from Light, but only their personal slave, totally subordinate to their personal religion of Self. There is no surrender to Christ, only the lies that the Holy Spirit can be enslaved and Christ can be legally bound to the whims of each individual who creates their own personal religion of Self.

That's they way it goes once someone begins with a single heresy or even a single error and then follows their own personal intellect rather than surrendering to Christ. It's clear for all to see who read the constant drumbeat of those who follow the religion of Self because every argument they make boils down to the simple fact that they cannot accept Scripture but always say, "that's what it says, but that's not what it means". Unless, of course, we're talking about the portions of the Bible they've already thrown in the trash can. Those books they just ignore because they claim to know more than Christ and the Apostles who never said a word about there being any books in the then existing Scriptures that didn't belong there.

have a nice day

2,952 posted on 12/06/2011 10:11:44 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: metmom
9But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,

Excuse me, you have never claimed to be a Jew, you are not one of the chosen race. And you, woman, are not a priest will never be a priest, and cannot be a priest.

What is the obsession with Catholics, anyway? You all reject the Church, move on, leave it alone, get a life.

2,953 posted on 12/06/2011 10:37:26 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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