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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear; Hegewisch Dupa; metmom; Iscool
Very good. You have kindly illustrated the difference once again between faith and knowledge. Thank you.

Faith that has no foundation is foolishness not faith...

The Muslims have faith there are 12 virgins waiting for them in heaven if they kill for allah..

The Mormons have faith that Joseph Smith found plates of gold and that temple worthy males will be gods with their own planets

Our faith is to stand on solid ground..God left evidence of His truths so that men might have assurity in their faith

"The bereans were applauded for checking those things they were taught as true against the scriptures.. they wanted a founded faith...

Act 17:11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

Peter advises us

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

We do not have a God that wishes to keep secret who hides who He is or how He works . He has left historic evidence in His word ..and he left NO historic evidence of much of the doctrine of men /tradition .. of Catholicism..

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

2,836 posted on 12/05/2011 10:39:59 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
He has left historic evidence in His word

And we have the Methodist to thank for that, keeping, compiling, copying protecting.. throughout history...

.:)

2,839 posted on 12/05/2011 11:28:48 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RnMomof7
Very good. You have kindly illustrated the difference once again between faith and knowledge. Thank you.

Faith that has no foundation is foolishness not faith...

Hmm. Let us find out what faith means:

DICTIONARY
faith
Definition
faith[ fayth ]
NOUN
1. belief or trust: belief in, devotion to, or trust in somebody or something, especially without logical proof "I wouldn't put my faith in him to straighten things out."
2. religion or religious group: a system of religious belief, or the group of people who adhere to it
3. trust in God: belief in and devotion to God "Her faith is unwavering."
4. set of beliefs: a strongly held set of beliefs or principles "people of different political faiths"
5. loyalty: allegiance or loyalty to somebody or something [ 13th century. Via Old French feid < Latin fides "trust, belief" ]

keep faith with somebody or something to be loyal or true to a person or promise
keep the faith do not despair regardless of what may happen
Keep the faith; we'll get through this.
on faith without demanding proof

Thank you as well for illustrating my point for me. You have been very helpful.

John 20:29 Jesus saith to him: Because thou hast seen me, Thomas, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and have believed.

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Excellent. Hope. Not certitude.

I shall end the post with:

1 Corinthians 13:13 And now abides faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Faith and hope, buoyed on love. No limousine ride, no ticket to Heaven.

2,856 posted on 12/05/2011 12:57:19 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: RnMomof7
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Another salient verse...They couldn't find the light they wanted in scripture so they invented Tradition for their light...

2,863 posted on 12/05/2011 2:48:09 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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