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To: metmom
The Catholic Church says those Protestants who were born into their error and don't know any better may be saved as a result of their invincible ignorance. You keep talking about having gotten saved by leaving the Catholic Church. But any Catholic who leaves for Protestantism is guilty of the sin of schism and heresy loses his or her salvation. http://www.keyway.ca/htm2009/20090808.htm As Vatican II teaches in Lumen Gentium: 14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
2,343 posted on 12/03/2011 6:47:40 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21; metmom
The Catholic Church says those Protestants who were born into their error and don't know any better may be saved as a result of their invincible ignorance.

How nice of them..Sorry we can not say the same thing.. on the day Catholics stand before Christ in judgement He will tell them "I never knew you" ..There will be no exception for 'ignorance "

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

2,357 posted on 12/03/2011 7:02:05 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: rzman21
Jesus says salvation is through HIM. He never said anyone has to go through a church to be saved.

John 14:6 esus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

John 10:7-9 7So Jesus again said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.

Acts 4:8-12 8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, "Rulers of the people and elders, 9if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, 10let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. 12And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

Jesus didn't establish the church to lead us, He promised the Holy Spirit to us for that purpose.

John 14:15-17, 26 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
26But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

2,369 posted on 12/03/2011 7:19:21 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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