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To: rzman21; metmom
You have to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. It’s a process.

Out of context scripture is an affront to God...

1st the DOES NOT SAY .."work out TO BE SAVED.. the scripture says they ARE ALREADY SAVED..

This is about walking the christian walk

Now in context

Phl 2:12 ¶ Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure

The terms beloved or brother are the terms used by the apostles for the saved

This is not talking about getting saved..it is talking about their walk...

RZ..when will you know you are good enough and have done enough to be saved??

2,028 posted on 12/02/2011 3:38:58 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

GMTA


2,031 posted on 12/02/2011 3:46:03 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: RnMomof7

It’s arrogance to presume that you are sinless and already saved.

You are quoting from a translation So you and the translators can twist is whatever way you like.


2,054 posted on 12/02/2011 5:16:22 PM PST by rzman21
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To: RnMomof7; rzman21; metmom

****The terms beloved or brother are the terms used by the apostles for the saved.****

Where does Scripture say that brother and sister are terms for the saved?

****1st the DOES NOT SAY ..”work out TO BE SAVED.. the scripture says they ARE ALREADY SAVED..****

Where does this passage say “already saved”?

***This is about walking the christian walk***

What is the Christian walk? And what happens if one is a Christian but does not walk the walk?

****RZ..when will you know you are good enough and have done enough to be saved??****

It is not a matter of “good enough” as no one is “good enough” or a matter of “having done enough” or not “having done enough” as man can do nothing without God.

It is a matter or remaining in Christ so that He remains in you. That is how one endures to the end. That is the assurance that Jesus gave us so that we will not be afraid but also we will not fall into complacency or the belief that what we do or do not do is of no consequence.

Why do you suppose Jesus warned us to stay awake and not be found sleeping when the master comes.


2,165 posted on 12/02/2011 8:58:48 PM PST by Jvette
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