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To: CynicalBear

Your throwing around the C-Word shows that you don’t really have much of an argument other than to hold your interpretation of the Bible up as infallible.

The Muslim Brotherhood looks at the Quran in much the same way that you look at the Bible.

Beware of your pride oh Pharisee.

James 4:6 ESV / 6 helpful votes

But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

Romans 12:2 ESV / 5 helpful votes

Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Isaiah 1:1-31 ESV / 4 helpful votes

The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth; for the Lord has spoken: “Children have I reared and brought up, but they have rebelled against me. The ox knows its owner, and the donkey its master’s crib, but Israel does not know, my people do not understand.” Ah, sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, offspring of evildoers, children who deal corruptly! They have forsaken the Lord, they have despised the Holy One of Israel, they are utterly estranged. Why will you still be struck down? Why will you continue to rebel? The whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. ...

Romans 8:15 ESV / 3 helpful votes

For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”

Proverbs 16:18-19 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. It is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud.

Proverbs 16:5 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord; be assured, he will not go unpunished.

Proverbs 8:13 ESV / 3 helpful votes

The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.

Psalm 59:12 ESV / 3 helpful votes

For the sin of their mouths, the words of their lips, let them be trapped in their pride. For the cursing and lies that they utter,

James 3:6 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and set on fire by hell.

1 Timothy 3:6 ESV / 2 helpful votes

He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil.

1 Timothy 1:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes

The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

1 Corinthians 6:19 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,

1 Corinthians 3:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?

1 Corinthians 2:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

Romans 12:1-2 ESV / 2 helpful votes

I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Romans 8:26-27 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

Romans 8:14 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

Romans 1:26-27 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

John 14:16-17 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

Luke 20:36 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Luke 11:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

Isaiah 28:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Ah, the proud crown of the drunkards of Ephraim, and the fading flower of its glorious beauty, which is on the head of the rich valley of those overcome with wine!

Ecclesiastes 12:7 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

James 4:7 ESV / 1 helpful vote

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Titus 3:5 ESV / 1 helpful vote

He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

Galatians 5:1 ESV / 1 helpful vote

For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.


1,704 posted on 11/30/2011 3:23:49 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21
>> The Muslim Brotherhood looks at the Quran in much the same way that you look at the Bible.<<

Careful there. It’s the Catholics who serve the same god as the Muslims.

# 841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”[330]

>>Do not be conformed to this world,<<

You mean like taking the same “queen of heaven” philosophy as the pagans?

>>For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear,<<

And who is it exactly that says they can’t know if they are saved and fear they may not be good enough?

>>Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord<<

No one goes to heaven unless they belong to the Catholic Church right and everyone needs to bow to the Catholic Church because they are the first and after all non of us would have scripture had it not bee for the Catholic Church? That kind of arrogant?

>>For the sin of their mouths, the words of their lips, let them be trapped in their pride.<<

That Catholic Church is the only church and all should be thankful the church wrote the scriptures and besides the Catholic Church is the biggest? That kind of pride?

>>And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit,<<

So we shouldn’t put our faith in what the Pope says right?

>>that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect<<

We know, we need to “search the scriptures daily to see if these things are true”. >>Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.<<

That is for sure. Stay away from submitting to some guy in a pointy hat.

1,740 posted on 11/30/2011 5:09:00 PM PST by CynicalBear
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