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To: rzman21
Baptism opens the door to salvation, but it does not assure it. Without baptism, you go to hell, period.

Then baptism doesn't save.

Without Christ one goes to hell, period.

Funny, I thought Christ said He was the door.

John 10:7-9 7So Jesus again said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.

If you add anything to Christ, you're saying that the finished work of Christ on the cross was not enough to save. It's Christ and _________. That makes the salvation dependent on the thing you add to Christ.

Baptism does NOT save.

1,528 posted on 11/29/2011 8:22:55 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; rzman21

we are saved by grace.

baptism is the means Jesus instituted to bring grace to the soul and regenerate it.

grace is not irrestitable as Calvin taught, so “once saved, always saved” is not Biblical.


1,534 posted on 11/29/2011 8:27:36 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: metmom
Funny how the thief on the cross wasn't baptized.. but Christ told him that he would be with Christ in Paradise....

Hmmmm.

:D

Hoss

1,600 posted on 11/30/2011 7:38:17 AM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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