Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish

Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

[marshmallow]

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.

[rzman21]

When it comes to baiting you are the best.

[CynicalBear]

>>Hatred Exposure of Catholicism Satanic lies is their idol cause.<<

There, fixed it for you.

[rzman21]

There wouldn’t be over 20,000 Protestant sects if it weren’t for the cult of individualism that is an integral part of Protestantism.

[CynicalBear]

>>There wouldn’t be over 20,000 Protestant sects if it weren’t for the cult of individualism that is an integral part of Protestantism.<<

LOL It’s more like Satan infiltrates each as they begin to build hierarchy like he did the CC and people who actually study scripture for themselves pull away from those denominations that lose their way like the CC did.

[rzman21]

I guess Solomon forgot that rule when he built the Temple in Jerusalem.

1 Kings 6 The Building of the Temple

1Now it came about in the four hundred and eightieth year after the sons of Israel came out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD. 2As for the house which King Solomon built for the LORD, its length was sixty cubits and its width twenty cubits and its height thirty cubits. 3The porch in front of the nave of the house was twenty cubits in length, corresponding to the width of the house, and its depth along the front of the house was ten cubits. 4Also for the house he made windows with artistic frames. 5Against the wall of the house he built stories encompassing the walls of the house around both the nave and the inner sanctuary; thus he made side chambers all around. 6The lowest story was five cubits wide, and the middle was six cubits wide, and the third was seven cubits wide; for on the outside he made offsets in the wall of the house all around in order that the beams would not be inserted in the walls of the house. 7The house, while it was being built, was built of stone prepared at the quarry, and there was neither hammer nor axe nor any iron tool heard in the house while it was being built.

8The doorway for the lowest side chamber was on the right side of the house; and they would go up by winding stairs to the middle story, and from the middle to the third. 9So he built the house and finished it; and he covered the house with beams and planks of cedar. 10He also built the stories against the whole house, each five cubits high; and they were fastened to the house with timbers of cedar. 11Now the word of the LORD came to Solomon saying, 12“Concerning this house which you are building, if you will walk in My statutes and execute My ordinances and keep all My commandments by walking in them, then I will carry out My word with you which I spoke to David your father. 13“I will dwell among the sons of Israel, and will not forsake My people Israel.”

14So Solomon built the house and finished it. 15Then he built the walls of the house on the inside with boards of cedar; from the floor of the house to the ceiling he overlaid the walls on the inside with wood, and he overlaid the floor of the house with boards of cypress. 16He built twenty cubits on the rear part of the house with boards of cedar from the floor to the ceiling; he built them for it on the inside as an inner sanctuary, even as the most holy place. 17The house, that is, the nave in front of the inner sanctuary, was forty cubits long. 18There was cedar on the house within, carved in the shape of gourds and open flowers; all was cedar, there was no stone seen. 19Then he prepared an inner sanctuary within the house in order to place there the ark of the covenant of the LORD. 20The inner sanctuary was twenty cubits in length, twenty cubits in width, and twenty cubits in height, and he overlaid it with pure gold. He also overlaid the altar with cedar. 21So Solomon overlaid the inside of the house with pure gold. And he drew chains of gold across the front of the inner sanctuary, and he overlaid it with gold. 22He overlaid the whole house with gold, until all the house was finished. Also the whole altar which was by the inner sanctuary he overlaid with gold.

23Also in the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim of olive wood, each ten cubits high. 24Five cubits was the one wing of the cherub and five cubits the other wing of the cherub; from the end of one wing to the end of the other wing were ten cubits. 25The other cherub was ten cubits; both the cherubim were of the same measure and the same form. 26The height of the one cherub was ten cubits, and so was the other cherub. 27He placed the cherubim in the midst of the inner house, and the wings of the cherubim were spread out, so that the wing of the one was touching the one wall, and the wing of the other cherub was touching the other wall. So their wings were touching each other in the center of the house. 28He also overlaid the cherubim with gold.

29Then he carved all the walls of the house round about with carved engravings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers, inner and outer sanctuaries. 30He overlaid the floor of the house with gold, inner and outer sanctuaries.

31For the entrance of the inner sanctuary he made doors of olive wood, the lintel and five-sided doorposts. 32So he made two doors of olive wood, and he carved on them carvings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers, and overlaid them with gold; and he spread the gold on the cherubim and on the palm trees.

33So also he made for the entrance of the nave four-sided doorposts of olive wood 34and two doors of cypress wood; the two leaves of the one door turned on pivots, and the two leaves of the other door turned on pivots. 35He carved on it cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers; and he overlaid them with gold evenly applied on the engraved work. 36He built the inner court with three rows of cut stone and a row of cedar beams.

37In the fourth year the foundation of the house of the LORD was laid, in the month of Ziv. 38In the eleventh year, in the month of Bul, which is the eighth month, the house was finished throughout all its parts and according to all its plans. So he was seven years in building it.

<< Exodus 25 >> New American Standard Bible Offerings for the Sanctuary 1Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 2“Tell the sons of Israel to raise a contribution for Me; from every man whose heart moves him you shall raise My contribution. 3“This is the contribution which you are to raise from them: gold, silver and bronze, 4blue, purple and scarlet material, fine linen, goat hair, 5rams’ skins dyed red, porpoise skins, acacia wood, 6oil for lighting, spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense, 7onyx stones and setting stones for the ephod and for the breastpiece. 8“Let them construct a sanctuary for Me, that I may dwell among them. 9“According to all that I am going to show you, as the pattern of the tabernacle and the pattern of all its furniture, just so you shall construct it. Ark of the Covenant 10“They shall construct an ark of acacia wood two and a half cubits long, and one and a half cubits wide, and one and a half cubits high. 11“You shall overlay it with pure gold, inside and out you shall overlay it, and you shall make a gold molding around it. 12“You shall cast four gold rings for it and fasten them on its four feet, and two rings shall be on one side of it and two rings on the other side of it. 13“You shall make poles of acacia wood and overlay them with gold. 14“You shall put the poles into the rings on the sides of the ark, to carry the ark with them. 15“The poles shall remain in the rings of the ark; they shall not be removed from it. 16“You shall put into the ark the testimony which I shall give you. 17“You shall make a mercy seat of pure gold, two and a half cubits long and one and a half cubits wide. 18“You shall make two cherubim of gold, make them of hammered work at the two ends of the mercy seat. 19“Make one cherub at one end and one cherub at the other end; you shall make the cherubim of one piece with the mercy seat at its two ends. 20“The cherubim shall have their wings spread upward, covering the mercy seat with their wings and facing one another; the faces of the cherubim are to be turned toward the mercy seat. 21“You shall put the mercy seat on top of the ark, and in the ark you shall put the testimony which I will give to you. 22“There I will meet with you; and from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim which are upon the ark of the testimony, I will speak to you about all that I will give you in commandment for the sons of Israel.

I'm with the pagan Jews. :)

[rzman21]

So you are saying that Satan inspired the Protestant reading of scripture?

[metmom]

Same here. Claim “everybody is doing it” and I will investigate long and hard. After bragging that the CC is the largest and longest lasting it rang pretty hollow to claim “follow the crowd” for Protestants. Then one has to wonder which of the 20,000 different denominations they think is the “crowd”.

They appeal to crowd following with claims of 2,000 years and 1.2 billion strong in order to win converts, and then criticize others for crowd following if they LEAVE the Catholic church.

Catholics follow the crowd when they obey the magisterium and let the church do their thinking on spiritual matters for them.

Would that qualify more as irony or hypocrisy?

[CynicalBear]

So you are saying that Satan inspired the Protestant reading of scripture?<<

Obviously I need to put it in clearer terms for you. Satan has completely taken control of the CC. Satan has infiltrated many of the Protestant denominations as well.

[metmom]

Same here. Claim “everybody is doing it” and I will investigate long and hard. After bragging that the CC is the largest and longest lasting it rang pretty hollow to claim “follow the crowd” for Protestants. Then one has to wonder which of the 20,000 different denominations they think is the “crowd”.

They appeal to crowd following with claims of 2,000 years and 1.2 billion strong in order to win converts, and then criticize others for crowd following if they LEAVE the Catholic church.

Catholics follow the crowd when they obey the magisterium and let the church do their thinking on spiritual matters for them.

Would that qualify more as irony or hypocrisy?

FWIW, crowd following is not something you can legitimately accuse homeschoolers of doing.

[CynicalBear]

>> Would that qualify more as irony or hypocrisy?<<

Yes. LOL

[rzman21]

Satan has completely taken control of the CC.
>>And I say also unto you, That you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18

Granted, there are many in the Church who are under Satan’s dominion, but your reading of scripture is identical to a Mormon’s.

[metmom]

Funny... that’s how your postings make me feel.

What do you expect when it's reruns all the time?

[CynicalBear]

>>but your reading of scripture is identical to a Mormon’s.<<

Are you kidding? Either you totally missed my posts or you have no idea what Mormons believe.

[metmom]

There wouldn’t be over 20,000 Protestant sects if it weren’t for the cult of individualism that is an integral part of Protestantism.

God forbid that we should have any of that individualism stuff.

Can't have people thinking for themselves, you know.

There's no way to control those in such a state.

[rzman21]

Either you totally missed my posts or you have no idea what Mormons believe.
>>You aren’t much better than a Mormon. Actually, I’m saying that as a compliment.

I know what Mormon’s believe, enough to know that your faith is a kissing cousin of Mormonism.

[rzman21]

Can’t have people thinking for themselves, you know.
>>You mean conformists.

[metmom]

I know what Mormon’s believe, enough to know that your faith is a kissing cousin of Mormonism.

Then I'm going to have to state that I don't believe you because they aren't.

[rzman21]

Radical individualism=radical conformity with anarchy.

[rzman21]

Then I’m going to have to state that I don’t believe you because they aren’t.
>>Fundamentalism and Mormonism hatched out of the same egg.

[CynicalBear]

>>enough to know that your faith is a kissing cousin of Mormonism.<<

Well, you’ve made an accusation now tell me how my faith is like Mormons.