Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
For some favored posters the rule seems to be “Do as I say and not as I do.”
I’m a re-tread myself. Back in 98 when I first registered, I lost my password, the FR software changed, and I had to re-register. I started out here as GrannyK, my nick from Lucianne years ago. Now there’s a new GrannyK, she owns the name now.
Bingo.
Knows html, can post pics, etc. Continually baits. Knows the drill. Knows all the arguments. Keeps pushing the same buttons over and over. Can't leave it alone.
It'a a Zombie, Jim.
Ok. I give up. I give up trying to think of you as being a newby sign up here.
I know, I promised I'd try. Sorry I had to give up so easily. You win. You have convinced me.
That our RC friend refuses to accept that there is no need for a priest function for the church of Christ, is clearly shown by his repeated attempts to conflate the Rebellion of Core (Korah) with the Scriptural teachings of the New Testament priesthood of all believers. Something he calls a grave error and heresy. But what St. Peter wrote under Divine inspiriation, only cements the truth of the sufficiency of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for all sins. If Peter had not written that, there would still have been the proof spoken of in Hebrews as well as the other epistles.
When Melchizedek is first mentioned (Genesis 14:18): "Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High." He existed WAY before the Levitical priesthood was established. How amazing that Jesus is, after THIS order, and has become our High Priest. That he brought out bread and wine just as Jesus did, proves not that these elements continue the same sacrifice of Christ on the cross for us, but that the bread and wine are symbolic of his sacrifice. When we receive these in his name we are identifying with him, we are demonstrating our faith in him.
FR is a dog eat dog world. If you try to avoid baiting then others bait you. It seems that simple.
I searched Scripture for the word "advocate" and the many times it is used, not once is it said about Mary.
John 14:16
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—
John 14:26
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
John 15:26
[ The Work of the Holy Spirit ] “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me.
John 16:7
But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
1 John 2:1
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
Why must anyone pretend that we need anyone else BUT Jesus Christ as our Advocate?
Yet, here you are on JR’s forum blathering on and on.
Indeed you did!
I think it’s improbable that the mod would supply information about an individual poster.
Meanwhile——though I seldom come to the religion forum anymore-— whenever I do, nothing is changed.
As I said one other time : “Things are more like they are now than they were before.”
“God has created man to be straightforward, but he has entangled himself with an infinity of questions” (to quote St. John Damascus).
I believe that this thread-—getting closer and closer to 4,000 posts-—has become a poor example of Christian interchange. It’s not a discussion or a dialogue anymore. The more recent posts are so much more “personal” and accusative in character that I would guess the mod is taking the day off.
I think something is somewhat off-track in being suspicious of people and playing the “oldie” card against a “newbie” (it seems that “newbie” is definitely a pejorative around here).
As a “retread” myself, (I first registered and posted in 2002), I guess I can be glad that no one has used it against me.
I am hoping that this thread finds its way to The End-—and, having said that, I hope I don’t get a reply post claiming that I want to stifle the forum, (as was posted to me in the past).
The problem for Catholics is that they cannot take those scriptures as truth. The priesthood of all believers would mean that the hierarchy of the RCC would be destroyed. The truth of scripture makes the RCC totally unbiblical.
It’s an eye opening interchange, ROE.
Which we are as Christians called to do anywhere there is falsehoods presented as truth. But for some reason catholics resort to the term "Anti-catholic" more as a means of defense...and an attempt to cry victim....instead of staying on the course of discussion.
It's thrown around like popcorn as soon as there's any indication they cannot respond to the topic and defend their position. Not all.. but most use this as a defense rather than admit there are simply things they claim which are not defensible with any degree of reason....and clearly oppose God's word.
They just follow the herd. I laugh anytime I hear self-righteous non-Catholics brag about how the think for themselves.
I’ve studied marketing an persuasion on the graduate level, and it’s a proven fact that people believe what those around them do.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am NOT impressed.
FWIW, all that marketing stuff is WASTED on me. I don't give a rip what people around me think. I don't do what everyone else is doing just because everyone else is doing it.
Matter of fact, the fastest way to get me to not do something is to tell me *everybody* is doing it.
It's really too bad you couldn't get a real degree to earn a real living.
FOTFOL!
That's the best laugh I've had in a long time. Thanks.
Protestants are the majority in America, so any Catholic who joins them is just following the crowd.
If I believed as those around me do, I'd still be Catholic. Protestantism may be the majority religion for the nation as a whole, but in the area I grew up in, it was not. I grew up in a heavily Catholic area, predominantly Catholic, actually.
Dream on, but if it makes you feel better than everyone else to think so, just go right ahead. Enjoy your delusion. You apparently majored in it.
LOL!!!!
Anyone can lie with statistics.
How to Lie with Statistics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics
http://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728
Notice how they think the ‘worldly’ view of things - can be applied to the supernatural. They demonstrate over and over the TRUTH that a ‘natural man’ - one without the Spirit - CANNOT understand the things of God. They are clueless to the core.
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