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Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish
Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.


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To: rzman21

You come to FR and post thread after thread, along with what is it(?) hundreds(?) of comments in the Religion Forum, are rabid in promotion of your views, your sect and it's affiliates, etc.

I'm having a tough time taking your word for for being a newby here ...but I will try.

3,641 posted on 12/11/2011 4:41:43 PM PST by 7MMmag (Five cents, please...)
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To: rzman21; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Cliches. Cliches. Tssk. Tssk.

Scripture is a cliche?

Tell God that when you see Him. I'm sure He'll be impressed.....

3,642 posted on 12/11/2011 4:42:43 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Quix
Graven images are wrong except this one. Right?


3,643 posted on 12/11/2011 4:43:44 PM PST by rzman21
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To: Quix

3,644 posted on 12/11/2011 4:44:31 PM PST by narses
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To: Quix

I did wonder about that one. Because a similar "religious spirit" appeared to be in evidence.

3,645 posted on 12/11/2011 4:46:55 PM PST by 7MMmag (Five cents, please...)
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To: 7MMmag

So people aren’t allowed to have their own opinions on FR?


3,646 posted on 12/11/2011 4:47:35 PM PST by rzman21
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To: Quix; 7MMmag; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

Kosta also got a vote as he was orthodox.

There was someone else as I recall, but the name escapes me at the moment.


3,647 posted on 12/11/2011 4:47:35 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

It’s conditioned into them. It IS beyond their comprehension.
>>The same goes for Protestants and apostate Catholics.


3,648 posted on 12/11/2011 4:50:13 PM PST by rzman21
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To: metmom

Kosta. Sounds a lot like him, anyway.


3,649 posted on 12/11/2011 4:53:18 PM PST by 7MMmag (Five cents, please...)
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To: 7MMmag; Religion Moderator; metmom

Several anti-Catholics are claiming that rzman21 is a re-tread. Can you check that for us? Because I think that’s a personal insult.


3,650 posted on 12/11/2011 4:55:23 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: metmom

American Catholics have always had an inferiority complex vis-a-vis the Protestant majority.

And coming from a Protestant background, I can attest that most Protestants are such for kneejerk reasons.

Closed-minded anti-Catholicism is in their blood, and poorly catechized Catholics suck it in and become anti-Catholic themselves. I was raised with it, so if any Catholic on FR has a perspective on it, I do.

My grandmother practically had a heart attack when I became a Catholic, and so did my mother and all of my Protestant relatives.

It’s easier for a Fundamentalist to accept a Catholic converting to the Hare Krishnas than to “gasp” Catholicism.

Many Protestants love anti-Catholicism more than they love Jesus. Hatred of Catholicism is their idol.


3,651 posted on 12/11/2011 4:57:44 PM PST by rzman21
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To: Rashputin; CynicalBear; metmom
Those who never surrender and refuse to take up their cross and follow Christ, though, just keep generating their own personal religion of Self and therefore have no life in them. Such people are described as swine. Sorry, that's the Word of God. I know how much clear and simple Scriptures offend some folks, but that's the way it is. That's why it's a waste to throw the pearls of Scripture before them, they get irritated, angry, and in doing so dig themselves deeper into heresy rather than opening up more to the Holy Spirit that would guide them to the Truth if they would stop making up their own religion of Self to follow. didn't read anything after the "YET", didn't need to. Everything after the "YET" is more than likely, hokum, baloney, one persons personal interpretation or a twisting of something to suit their own love of them-self and keep from bending their knee to Christ.

Then the errors you make are obvious and the more you continue in that vein, the more errors you make and the deeper into heresy you go. Your first error is in assuming that because one is not a Roman Catholic, he is not surrendered to Jesus Christ as Savior nor that he HAS taken up his cross to follow Christ. Your second error is to presume that because one is not Roman Catholic that he "has no life in him". On the contrary, "Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." (I John 5:10-13) So, we joyously proclaim faith in Jesus Christ and trust in the promises of God that he GIVES to us eternal life through Christ.

Your third error was in your contention that this thread "started from only the most slender of excuses to begin attacking the Catholic Church". It belies the FACT that a Roman Catholic posted the original article and it appears it may have been to attack "Protestants" because a gay Episcopal Bishop was invited to preach at a Roman Catholic parish. What proceeded was the usual track such threads as these take with Catholics asserting superiority over non-Catholics and non-Catholics asserting our Scriptural assurance that we ARE in Christ and part of his body. Just because we are not Catholics does not exclude us from membership in the universal body of Christ, which IS his church. Surrendering to Christ is receiving him as savior, believing in him as the Son of God who died for our salvation. Even the leaders in your religion have conceded that those outside of Catholicism ARE Christians. If you disagree with that, your fight is with them. I am secure in my faith and nothing you can say will move me from the rock of my faith, Jesus Christ.

3,652 posted on 12/11/2011 4:58:55 PM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: rzman21

Actually, I got free from that conditioning and learned to think for myself.

Whom the Son sets free is free indeed.


3,653 posted on 12/11/2011 5:00:50 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: rzman21

I .meant to say it is easier for a Fundamentalist to accept his/her son/daughter becoming a Hare Krishna than a Catholic.


3,654 posted on 12/11/2011 5:00:57 PM PST by rzman21
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To: boatbums; Rashputin; CynicalBear

Preach it, sister.

You nailed it.


3,655 posted on 12/11/2011 5:04:07 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: rzman21

Now, now, I said no such thing. If I meant to say as much, I would have done so flat-out.

But such a baiting, twisted reply is reminiscent of previous posters who have been banned for being disruptive.

Otherwise, you might be surprised that I even agree with some of what you have included in comments on various threads.

3,656 posted on 12/11/2011 5:05:54 PM PST by 7MMmag (Five cents, please...)
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To: metmom; 7MMmag

When one post a thread the first thing they do when they sign up it’s obvious they have a familiarity and the first posted thread was a contentious thread in the religion forum. Obviously a clear agenda coming in.


3,657 posted on 12/11/2011 5:08:50 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom

American individualists just do what society tells them to do.
They just follow the herd.

I laugh anytime I hear self-righteous non-Catholics brag about how the think for themselves.

I’ve studied marketing an persuasion on the graduate level, and it’s a proven fact that people believe what those around them do.

Protestants are the majority in America, so any Catholic who joins them is just following the crowd.


3,658 posted on 12/11/2011 5:10:59 PM PST by rzman21
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To: Judith Anne; Religion Moderator

Talk about “Making it Personal”!


3,659 posted on 12/11/2011 5:10:59 PM PST by narses
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To: 7MMmag

Now, that’s a typical protestant flip flop weasely response.


3,660 posted on 12/11/2011 5:11:37 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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