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Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish
Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.


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To: Jvette

What I have seen here is more of a Mariophobia on the part of the Protestant posters.

They really just hate her.


3,321 posted on 12/09/2011 8:56:01 AM PST by rzman21
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To: Iscool

You need a bible and a lot of praying...To Jesus...
>>I already do.


3,322 posted on 12/09/2011 9:01:24 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21

Yeah, I’ve seen those. I do take those into consideration but many of them are not so much errors as the use of English words that allow for error of understanding. There is no doubt that use of the original text to tweak one’s understanding is necessary.


3,323 posted on 12/09/2011 9:03:48 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: MarkBsnr

You are disgusting...


3,324 posted on 12/09/2011 9:05:58 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: CynicalBear

The differences between the primitive OT and that used by the Protestants are more than a matter of translation.


3,326 posted on 12/09/2011 9:08:56 AM PST by rzman21
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To: MarkBsnr
The Bereans only had the Septuagint. Are you supposed to only consult the Septuagint?

There was no Septuagint until Origen invented it...

Also; the entire nation of Israel rejected Jesus. What made the Bereans recognize Jesus in the OT when Israel did not?

Your ignorance of scripture is astounding...

3,327 posted on 12/09/2011 9:10:43 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool

There was no Septuagint until Origen invented it...
>>That’s a lie.

Your ignorance of scripture is astounding...
>>I guess you go to Church to learn insults.


3,328 posted on 12/09/2011 9:14:43 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21
>> When you give glory to the saints, you give glory to God.<<

What utter nonsense. First of all, throughout scripture all believers are called saints. Then even in 2 Thessalonians it is God who is glorified in His saints not that the saints are glorified.

2 Thessalonians 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Twisting scripture to conform to CC teaching is heresy and blasphemes God.

3,329 posted on 12/09/2011 9:15:45 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: rzman21; metmom

Wait, wait, I thought it was the Catholics who see God as the puppet of Mary.


3,330 posted on 12/09/2011 9:19:51 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Twisting scripture to conform to CC teaching is heresy and blasphemes God

>>Sounds more appropriate of the teachings of your sect.


3,331 posted on 12/09/2011 9:21:49 AM PST by rzman21
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To: Iscool; metmom; CynicalBear; Quix

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2817486/posts


3,332 posted on 12/09/2011 9:25:00 AM PST by rzman21
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To: CynicalBear

Introduction to Humility
by Archimandrite [now Archbishop] Chrysostomos [of Etna]
The present volume is the first in a series of projected volumes on themes in the psychology of the Fathers of the Eastern Orthodox Church. In general, the themes will parallel the major topical divisions in the primary collection of writings on the early Eastern monastics of the Egyptian desert, the Euergetinos. The Euergetinos, first published in the eighteenth century through the efforts of two Greek Saints, Makarios of Corinth and Nikodemos of the Holy Mountain, recounts the lives and spiritual accomplishments of the early desert Fathers. These ascetic strugglers, during the first few centuries of Christianity, brought the Christian virtues into a living witness. Their lives reveal a practical application of the theory of Christianity, and it is from their witness that centuries of Christians, both in the East and in the West, have drawn their very definitions of the Christian life, the Christian soul, and the Christian mind. Their exploits and deeds, as narrated in the Euergetinos, form a brilliant mosaic, a composition patterned by such singular virtues as humility, obedience, repentance, and love, among others. From these virtues we will draw the themes for the individual volumes in our series, psychological pieces that might ultimately lead us to a vision of the phronema ton pateron, of that resplendent mosaic which is the mind of the Fathers themselves. Accordingly, each volume will build on translated selections from the various topical divisions of the Euergetinos, tracing from the early desert to contemporary Orthodox spirituality the golden thread continuity by which the Orthodox Fathers, past and present, are joined “en to auto noi” [”in the same mind”] and “en te aute gnome” [”in the same thought”] (I Corinthians 1:10).
http://orthodoxinfo.com/phronema/hum_intro.aspx


3,333 posted on 12/09/2011 9:26:45 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21; Iscool; metmom; Quix

I would suppose that spiritual pride would include the CC contention that “they wrote the scripture” and that without them no one would have the word of God available to them. Inferring of course that God would not be able without the CC to preserve His word for all time.


3,334 posted on 12/09/2011 9:36:32 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: rzman21

I’ll take my information from the Old Testament and the Apostles themselves and leave the later writings and writings of dubious quality to the CC.


3,335 posted on 12/09/2011 9:38:50 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Jvette; boatbums; CynicalBear
I have been told many times that it is the Catholic Mary that protestants decry, but that statement leaves me to believe there is more to it.

You've been told many times and STILL you search for 'something which isn't there'... rather than accept that it is simply as is stated...."It is the Catholic Mary that Protestants decry."

Once again you evidence what's been mentioned time and again...Catholics spend so much time looking for what "isn't there"... rather than "see" what "IS there"... that they miss the High Calling in Christ Jesus".....

....which for that leads them down a road where all manner of variations of thought and speculation occur, which occupy their hearts and minds from 'the matter at hand' in which to come to terms with and resolve.

... Undecided then they seek Rome Leadership to determine what they will believe or not.....checkmate...and they go no further to resolving their own issue of what the truth is on te matter.

3,336 posted on 12/09/2011 9:49:04 AM PST by caww
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To: CynicalBear

The Evangelical belief that no one understood the scriptures until they came along 1600 years later smacks of a certain Gnostic elitism.
http://www.epinions.com/review/Against_the_Protestant_Gnostics_by_Philip_J_Lee/content_102190714500


3,337 posted on 12/09/2011 10:02:55 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21

I realize the Catholic need to try to put all other beliefs sometime after the reformation but truth is that reliance on original Apostle writing put the foundation under beliefs that later writings and conjecture of CC dogma just can’t achieve. The tendency of the CC to establish beliefs on nothing more then “scripture doesn’t say it didn’t happen” is weak at best and the incorporation of pagan practices and beliefs put them in the category of heretics at best and many times an abomination to God.


3,338 posted on 12/09/2011 10:14:58 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

The tendency of the CC to establish beliefs on nothing more then “scripture doesn’t say it didn’t happen” is weak at best and the incorporation of pagan practices and beliefs put them in the category of heretics at best and many times an abomination to God.

>>What pagan practices? Like the Trinity? The Jews say Christians delved into paganism by developing the idea of the Triune God and by saying God became Man.

Your Biblical analysis is quite subjective. What is Biblical is in the eye of the beholder.


3,339 posted on 12/09/2011 10:22:43 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21
>> What pagan practices? Like the Trinity?<<

Using a truth to support a lie doesn’t make the lie true.

>> The Jews say Christians delved into paganism by developing the idea of the Triune God and by saying God became Man.<<

The day you can show me where Christ supported the bodily assumption of Mary I’ll take your obfuscation as something to look at.

3,340 posted on 12/09/2011 10:39:20 AM PST by CynicalBear
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