Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
I’m not a Latin.
Forget St. Paul. You’ve been listening to William of Ockham’s philosophy that the simplest explanation is the correct one too long.
Forget scripture? Is that what Catholics do? If you can’t answer if Paul was lying to the jailor maybe another question would be easier. Was John lying in the following verse?
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life." (John 5:24)
I think that is very incorrect according to the theology.
If one is not elect, salvation does not happen. If one is elect salvation happens. Election by itself determines whether salvation must or can not possibly happen.
Grace, faith are dependent, election the independent cause. One can say what they wish, but this is the theology.
You can prooftext all you like, but you are still cherry picking verses.
You took what I said out of context because I was going after your underlying assumptions in you cherry picking operation.
Christ personally established a permanent living magisterium to be heeded by all and gave not the slightest intimation that books were to be written or that they would one day constitute an exclusive source of information:
Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Then why did John write the book??? The book of John is God breathed scripture...All scripture is inspired by God...The writing of the book was inspired...John says he wrote so's we'd know the truth...You think he did that on his own, or mabye God wanted him to write???
And John says there is nothing more that what he has written that is required for us to know how to achieve salvation...
So everything you wrote in the post was claptrap including the nonsense about a permanent living magisterium...
Everything your religion teaches that is required for salvation that we can't find in the scriptures is anathema to God...Any doctrine your religion comes up with that is not scriptural is anathema to God...
It's as simple as that...
Probably the same thing your religion does with its faggot ministers???
I don't think that was forgotten...It was a given...So OK then...Once your murderin' hit man confesses his crimes to his priest, who by the way is obligated to keep it secret, the mobster is then forgiven and has a clean getaway to purgatory/heaven???
Scriptural anarchists apply St. Paul’s writings when it suits them, but then ignore passages like 1 Corinthians 12:25
That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
Their ancestors transgressed against this passage.
There is no doubt though that salvation outside the bounds of the visible Church on account of invincible ignorance.
But any Protestant who is saved will be save through the Catholic Church.
John 20:21
So you didn't bother checking the scriptures to see if they were telling you the truth??? You're just not the Berean type, eh???
You rejected their opinion for someone else's opinion...And you never checked to see what God said about it...
How in the world can you be Christians when you don't even have an interest to know what God says???
Join a Catholic church, get wet and bingo, you're on your way to heaven...You ever heard of anything so unGodly???
Well, how about you put it in context for me.
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life." (John 5:24)
That was Jesus talking in that verse. Did He ever say anything that would cause you to believe that He misspoke there?
You aren’t exactly Jesus no are you?
What if God doesn’t see the RCC as part of “the body” and used Luther to begin to put the truth back out there? If the RCC is not part of “the body” there is no schism. What if God knows that the RCC is really the whore of Babylon and took His true “body” out of the RCC?
The words of God Holy Scripture means nothing to you guys does it??? Baptism is the door to salvation...
The Grace of God is free...A free gift...You don't need to do something to get it...You don't have to ask Mary for it...You don't have to get baptized for it...
Grace is unmerited favor...
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Buy a bible, and read it...Quit wresting the scriptures...
Psa 56:5 Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are against me for evil.
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
I did and realized that Protestants weren’t Bereans.
Besides the verse you so take out of context deals with Christ’s messiahship, not the false dogma of Sola Scriptura.
And by the token of the verse’s context, we should junk the New Testament and only accept the Old Testament.
What do you call the musings of Protestant preachers? Opinions or not.
Or maybe you believe in the infallibility of you and your preachers.
Psa 56:5 Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are against me for evil.
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
>>Sounds like you.
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