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Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish
Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
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To: rzman21

I asked for an INFALLIBLE commentary on the entire bible.. If only the church can infallibly interpret scripture ..where is it all so we can read it


1,341 posted on 11/29/2011 3:31:40 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: CynicalBear; RnMomof7
So ... are you claiming to be an infallible interpreter of Scripture, or an inerrant arbiter of doctrine?

Let your yes be yes, and your no be no.

1,342 posted on 11/29/2011 3:32:05 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

As far as I can tell, many of them are not even Christian. It appears to me that many of them worship the God of the Bathroom Mirror.


1,343 posted on 11/29/2011 3:33:46 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: D-fendr
Yes, but the one thing fallible man interprets infallibly is his own fallible opinion.

Just point us at the infallible interpretations of the Old and New Testaments by the magisterium ...

1,344 posted on 11/29/2011 3:33:50 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
isn't it strange that in 2000 years they NEVER wrote a complete official commentary of the scriptures

That is opposite to how the Church works. At the start, the Apostles verbally handed on the teachings they had received directly from Jesus and from the Paraclete, mostly through councils but perhaps sometimes individually. The Gospels, Acts, and Apocalypse formed the basis of written teaching but most everything else came as a response to problems that required fixing (or heresies that required suppression). The Church can never undefine a teaching she has infallibly defined. Therefore, the Church only defines doctrine when it is absolutely necessary.

1,345 posted on 11/29/2011 3:34:22 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: ArrogantBustard; CynicalBear
So ... are you claiming to be an infallible interpreter of Scripture, or an inerrant arbiter of doctrine?

Actually that is Rome's claim ..so show us the meat ... where is it??

1,346 posted on 11/29/2011 3:36:41 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: mas cerveza por favor

In the political sphere, some folks seem to demand a legislated (or regulated) solution to every conceivable problem. For the most part, we call such people statists ... or marxists ... or similar.


1,347 posted on 11/29/2011 3:38:00 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RnMomof7
You haven't answered my question.

Do you claim to be an infallible interpreter of Scripture, or an inerrant arbiter of doctrine?

That's a simple "Yes" or "No" question.

1,348 posted on 11/29/2011 3:39:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

You can’t compete with the infallible Biblical Anarchists on these boards.


1,349 posted on 11/29/2011 3:40:57 PM PST by rzman21
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To: RnMomof7

All hail Pope RnMomof7, the infallible!!!!


1,350 posted on 11/29/2011 3:42:34 PM PST by rzman21
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To: RnMomof7
BTW ...

Maybe I missed it in all the noise ... but this article is about a high-ranking protestant minister who is also a flaming faggot.

Have you anything to say about that?

1,351 posted on 11/29/2011 3:43:12 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rzman21; smvoice; metmom; boatbums; caww; HossB86; RnMomof7
>> Show me the exact verse where it explicitly says scripture interprets scripture.<<

Believe nothing unless it agrees with scripture. Even if one part of scripture doesn’t agree with another part of scripture one of those portions or the interpretation of that portion is wrong.

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

>> Maybe you should read 2 Peter 3:15-16 next time you speak Ex Cathedra on FR.<<

When have I ever been unstable in my belief of what scripture says? It’s the Catholics who can’t seem to make everything agree with scripture. I’ll use the simple concept of the bodily assumption of Mary as an example. Catholics couldn’t even agree or settle that issue until the 1950s and even then couldn’t reconcile it with scripture. Another would be the paying of indulgences or eating meat on Friday. You talk about unstable it’s the Catholics who are unstable.

1,352 posted on 11/29/2011 3:43:20 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: RnMomof7

isn’t it strange that in 2000 years they NEVER wrote a complete official commentary of the scriptures
>>Spoken like a true scholastic.

Men are always thinking they can put God in a box.


1,353 posted on 11/29/2011 3:44:36 PM PST by rzman21
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To: mas cerveza por favor
That is opposite to how the Church works.

Exactly... Let me put it this way... IF only the "roman church' can infallibly interpret scripture why would they wish to withhold that truth from its people.. why would they hide it and allow every Catholic theologian,teacher, writer to develop his own fallible teaching.. no different than the protestants??

If the church loved its people, wouldn't it want to open the scriptures to their people so they could read the scriptures infallibly ?

I suspect they have never wanted to put their" infallible "teachings in writing because that might eliminate the future "revelations" by the prophet pope.. that might contradict them ..that would be a rock and hard place..

1,354 posted on 11/29/2011 3:44:36 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: rzman21
Men are always thinking they can put God in a box.

God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow..which argues for an "infallible" commentary by the men that are infallible huh?

1,355 posted on 11/29/2011 3:47:00 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: rzman21

I can take sarcasm; I just can’t help pointing out when a stopped clock happens to be right.

Hoss


1,356 posted on 11/29/2011 3:48:27 PM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: RnMomof7

Read the decrees of the Ecumenical Councils. http://www.newadvent.org/library/almanac_14388a.htm


1,357 posted on 11/29/2011 3:48:36 PM PST by rzman21
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To: ArrogantBustard; smvoice; HossB86; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww

Scripture is the infallible interpreter of scripture. I do realize that scripture takes a back seat to Rome for Catholics but they have their own cult so who knows.


1,358 posted on 11/29/2011 3:50:41 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Nice Tu Quoque.


1,359 posted on 11/29/2011 3:50:41 PM PST by rzman21
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To: ArrogantBustard; smvoice; HossB86; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww
>> As far as I can tell, many of them are not even Christian.<<

Define “Christian” for us.

1,360 posted on 11/29/2011 3:52:43 PM PST by CynicalBear
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