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To: smvoice
"Do your creeds include the gospel?" Some folks seem to like the taste of their own feet so much they don't even pretend to know what they're talking about, they just shove their feet in their mouths and mumble away. The Nicene Creed:

"We believe (I believe) in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, and born of the Father before all ages. (God of God) light of light, true God of true God. Begotten not made, consubstantial to the Father, by whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven. And was incarnate of the Holy Ghost and of the Virgin Mary and was made man; was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate, suffered and was buried; and the third day rose again according to the Scriptures. And ascended into heaven, sits at the right hand of the Father, and shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead, of whose Kingdom there shall be no end. And (I believe) in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceeds from the Father (and the Son), who together with the Father and the Son is to be adored and glorified, who spoke by the Prophets. And one holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We confess (I confess) one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for (I look for) the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen."

Now, go ahead and tell me all about how it doesn't quote the entire New Testament so you find it totally inadequate.

have a nice day

95 posted on 11/21/2011 4:27:04 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin; metmom; CynicalBear
No mention of the gospel of your salvation there. Nothing that says Christ died FOR YOUR SINS. "Suffered and was buried" is NOT even close.

Tell me more about creeds. They are useless without the gospel. THAT is the POINT of Christianity. The finished work of Christ on your behalf. The free gift of salvation by grace through faith in His finished work. Not there. But everything else is. Everything but the ONE thing you need for salvation..

108 posted on 11/21/2011 6:27:49 PM PST by smvoice (Suck it up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing have only just begun..)
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