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To: Rashputin; presently no screen name

Actually, Adam is the one responsible.

HE was the authority God established and he was given dominion over all the earth. HE watched Satan tempt HIS OWN WIFE and did NOTHING to stop it. He heard her misquote what God told him and did not intervene.

Then he watched her eat and when nothing happened to her, he ate himself. It was after he ate that the eyes of both of them were opened.

Eve was deceived. She did not *ignore* anything.

It was not Eve’s responsibility to make sure she was under proper authority, it was the responsibility of the authority, Adam.


57 posted on 11/21/2011 7:15:43 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"Actually, Adam is the one responsible."

I agree, that's why I make the whole point about Eve, she disobeyed God, failed to act as one with Adam by going her own way and following her own understanding. Adam stood by and did nothing shows that Adam was also willing to ignore a direct command from God to be as one flesh. Had Adam obeyed that command he would have stopped Eve from listening straying. She wouldn't have been following her own urge that allowed the Serpent to nudge her over the edge into redefining what God said to suit herself and trying to become as God. Adam ignoring Eve when she disobeyed the command to be as one and not protecting her from straying was the start of the whole thing.

It's nice to know so many people who can interpret Scripture any way they like but turn around and claim any interpretation but their own is wrong. Sounds like a whole crowd claiming to be infallible. Eve wasn't just deceived, she committed a series of venial sins leading her further astray until she committed a mortal sin and led Adam from the venial sin of not acting as one with Eve into the mortal sin of eating from the tree. And should the infallible begin their chant about there not being venial and mortal sins, just know in advance that saying that is proof positive that someone does NOT read the Bible. Anyone who doesn't realize that there are the two categories of sin at best carefully cherry picks what they read and at worst is so lost they're incapable digesting the Word as they read it.

Just because someone swallows what their momma penguin pukes up and thinks nothing happened until Adam took a bite of the Apple doesn't mean there isn't a whole lot to be learned from what transpires before that takes place. Well, I guess if you don't believe the whole Bible is suitable for instruction and is the inspired Word of God you could just ignore everything you found inconvenient or hadn't thought about as if it were the Word of God. Those of us who believe in every jot and tilde, though, know that there are important lessons that most people ignore in order to peddle an agenda that doesn't like to deal with context.

This has been very interesting. I now know that quite a few people around here who claim to infallibly interpret Scriptures don't even read the Scriptures, they just repeat what they've had drummed into them and defend it with rote arguments exactly the same way Mooze Lames have been taught to do. There's not much point in my talking with people who think it makes no difference if Adam and Eve disobeyed a direct command from the very mouth of God to them. Folks like that are pretending to believe the Bible at best, and at worst, deliberately and with malice aforethought teaching falsehood.

have a nice day

84 posted on 11/21/2011 11:24:13 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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