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By all mean just stick to God's Word, including the portions that bind you to others instead of pretending you are alone and not commanded to depend on and help others. Not only was she bound to Adam, we are bound to our fellow Christians just as she was bound to Adam, as one flesh. That's what Christ's Bride is, one flesh, one being, One Church. Or, is Corinthians another one of those books in the Bible that those who interpret everything for themselves ignore when it becomes inconvenient?

"Again, she did not heed God's Word and one can learn from that - not heeding HIS WORD alone leads to destruction. "

She first ignored that she was bound to Adam, that was HIS WORD just as much as the command to not eat of the tree. Of course, some people prefer to ignore or discard portions of The Word that disagree with their own understanding and inclinations. Such folks choose to always ignore the entirety of the Word and instead pick and chose what they apply in order to rationalize the conclusion they've already reached on their own. For them, I guess The Word is The Word except when it's not The Word because they find it inconvenient. Usually, though, they try to reinterpret things rather than just ignoring something like God saying that Adam and Eve were one flesh.

"God doesn't bind anyone - those who love and accept HIM He indwells with His Holy Spirit. "

Rom 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Rom 12:4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

Sounds pretty binding to me but then again I've never found the whispers of, " then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil", as alluring as so many others seem to.

Once someone adopts doctrines that agree with the serpent and claim all knowledge and power for themselves, they can easily manipulate The Word to mean whatever they want it to. Anyone who recognizes "The Lego Block Method of Scripture Interpretation", though, is also going to recognize that such folks don't actually care what The Word says, they've decided what it should say and they're going to manipulate Scripture any way they have to in order to say it agrees with their opinion.

Of course, that's only natural, Satan does quote Scripture and can easily provide someone with an appropriate out of context quote as needed. When read in context, though, the Scripture can't be distorted the way it so commonly is by so many people. Now, naturally, each and every one of the tens of thousands of churches and millions of independent actors all claim to have the proper interpretation due to their personal relationship to the Holy Spirit. That's exactly what you'd expect from a bunch of sheep who each and every one claim to be their own shepherd. It's also what Christ avoided by establishing His Church to teach us and to provide shepherds for us.

Before there was any need for the Church which is the one body of the Bride of Christ, there was just Adam and Eve who God commanded to be as one flesh. Those who abide by The Word consider themselves so bound do not enshrine their own thoughts and desires so readily as those who see themselves as independent actors do. Nor are they easily isolated and tempted away from what they know is the correct path because they know to rely on the other parts of the body when they feel weak or tempted and to help those other parts when they are feeling weak or tempted.

For some folks being in any way bound to anything other than their own understanding is just a bit too much like surrender and they prefer to make their own deal then to help convince them self that Christ will accept their deal, proclaim to any who will listen that surrender and a cross are just options, not requirements. For them, nothing is ever going to match their sweet imagination and they won't recognize as Truth what they now call foolishness until it's too late. It's a shame, but it's a consequence of habitually ignoring context in order to make Scripture say whatever they like and liking to be the head that controls the body.

44 posted on 11/21/2011 1:03:40 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin
including the portions that bind you to others instead of pretending you are alone and not commanded to depend on and help others.

Where did you get that from? First of all, Christians are not commanded to depend on man but God only! This is your own interpretation and shows your little understanding of what God's Word says. But not believing His Word is The Final Authority - you are capable of any thought that soothes you. And that leads to destruction as it did with Eve.

Sounds pretty binding to me

It HAS to because you are pushing an agenda. That Scripture doesn't mean it binds me to anyone. Remember God's Word states the man without the Spirit doesn't understand HIS Word. You fit in with that. I am a member of HIS Body - like a member of HIS family - a part of but not bound to. Do you understand what a collective noun is? I am bound to HIM alone and have fellowship with HIM. You can't handle that - you so want me to be wrong so you can be right. LOL! That won't be happening, I left that deception.

I enjoy fellowship with His body of believers on Him alone and we come together to praise Him and rejoice in His Word. If the pastor goes one iota off The Word - he is accountable to the body of believers. He knows that and encourages it because we are all members of the body of Christ - not the body of a church. There have been an instance or two but it was more of a member not understanding than going off His Word. You see, in my church we are all at different levels. It goes from new members and new Christians, to Christians not new but not mature to mature Christians. We are increasing in faith and knowledge of His Word as we grow closer to HIM. We help one another in one's walk with The Lord when they ask and when one has their moment of crisis from jobs to family or whatever and we take our God given authority and do what we know to do. And then there is always what we were commanded to do, go and teach the gospel/good news and make disciples.

You keep bound up and I will remain free 'in Christ'. His Way works perfectly for me - just the way He designed it to be. You chose man's way along w/their man made teachings. I didn't read the rest of your post - no need to - you are on the other side of where I am.

Learn from Adam/Eve - it's there for a reason. What is obvious to see - it's ALL about the Word. Satan is/was after the WORD to cause doubt, to question, to deceive. And what is a better description of those whom he has deceived - those who don't believe God's Word is The FINAL Authority!
48 posted on 11/21/2011 3:37:09 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Rashputin
Not only was she bound to Adam, we are bound to our fellow Christians just as she was bound to Adam, as one flesh. That's what Christ's Bride is, one flesh, one being, One Church.

You didn't find that part in Corinthians...You added to the word of God and you know what he says about that, and it ain't good...

Act 9:31 Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.

Act 15:41 And he went through Syria and Cilicia, confirming the churches.

Act 16:5 And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

In fact, the CHURCHES were spoken of 37 times in the scriptures...There is not just one church...

Of course, that's only natural, Satan does quote Scripture and can easily provide someone with an appropriate out of context quote as needed. When read in context, though, the Scripture can't be distorted the way it so commonly is by so many people.

Now, naturally, each and every one of the tens of thousands of churches and millions of independent actors all claim to have the proper interpretation due to their personal relationship to the Holy Spirit. That's exactly what you'd expect from a bunch of sheep who each and every one claim to be their own shepherd. It's also what Christ avoided by establishing His Church to teach us and to provide shepherds for us.

God did provide shepherds for us...And he listed their qualifications...

1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

Now if you know of someone who belongs to a religion that claims it has shepherds 'from God' and they don't meet all of these qualification, tell them to abandon that religion faster than rats fleeing a sinking ship...Because that's what it is...A sinking ship...

50 posted on 11/21/2011 5:21:25 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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