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To: knarf

Yes, he was on Art Bells show several times.


6 posted on 11/07/2011 7:09:50 AM PST by abigail2
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Guest started taking drugs by sniffing glue. Wanted to have acceptance of his friends. Did marijuana, amphetamines, barbituates, lsd and drank alot, ending up with heroine. Went to county jail, prison, mental hospitals. He was in prison for 13 months once. When he came out he went right back on drugs, because he hadn't suffered enough. He finally "hit bottom"....suffered enough and he finally wanted answers.

He went through AA and NA but the programs have deteriorated and they don't really understand the causes. He says they are wrong calling it a disease. He could not accept that. Its a spiritual condition says author. JEsse says if they are implying its a disease there is nothing you can do for it. He has not drank or used drugs in 35 years, he does not have to go to the programs...he says that is an addiction in itself, having to go to the meetings. Only way he could get over it, he had to get out of those programs and found the key to the root of addiction, a spiritual awakening. He had to get down to the hatred he had which is the reason he needed to take drugs to begin with...Up From Down at Amazon, Barnes and Noble...or website... Up From Down.info

Oh, he didn't mention the letter or possession. It would have been nice to hear more. I think Ted didn't get going about the cause of addiction and answers until the end. Maybe he thought he was going to be on longer. Well, you are going to have to read the book. HE did say that since it wasnt a disease, once you get rid of the cause of addiction, you can drink in moderation without getting addicted. Intereseting.

7 posted on 11/07/2011 7:41:17 AM PST by abigail2
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