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To: Jvette
>>And gee, once again, asking the saints who have passed through death into life with Jesus for intercession is not the same as contacting or calling up the spirits of the dead for knowledge of the future for earthly personal gain.<<

Isaiah 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

When you are in stress as those heathen you don’t pray through those who have died?

650 posted on 11/02/2011 2:04:45 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

>>And gee, once again, asking the saints who have passed through death into life with Jesus for intercession is not the same as contacting or calling up the spirits of the dead for knowledge of the future for earthly personal gain.<<

To courtesy ping or not to courtesy ping........

My brain hurts just trying to wrap it around that kind of convoluted reasoning. What’s the purpose of praying to saints if not for personal gain? Aren’t the prayers always asking favors of them? Or are they asking the saints for privation and hardship?

***shakes head in disbelief***


653 posted on 11/02/2011 2:18:40 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: CynicalBear

When you are in stress as those heathen you don’t pray through those who have died?

Sorry, I have no idea what this question even means, much less how to answer.

Catholics do not call up the spirits of the dead for knowledge of the future nor to circumvent or contradict God’s Holy Will.

In case you don’t already know this, the intercession we seek from them is with God and only according to His will.

We would never ask a saint for something that was contrary to God’s will for us.


659 posted on 11/02/2011 2:40:20 PM PDT by Jvette
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