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To: Jvette
>>God made His truth known and the Jews chose not to live by that truth and suffered the consequences for it.<<

Same thing will happen to the RCC.

>>Just as Scripture does not ever use the term Trinity to define the union of the Three Persons<<

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

>>Jesus says He will build His church, the believers of which are the body of Christ.<<

Would you make the claim that those who have accepted Christ as savior but do not belong to the organization called the RCC are not part of the body of Christ, the church?

>>someone will point to sinful leaders in the Church as a way to discount the good/truth in the Church.<<

So you would say then that because someone who is not Catholic said it that it pertains to all non Catholics? Would that then mean that all who are Catholics are pedophiles because some Catholics are?

634 posted on 11/02/2011 12:51:52 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Same thing will happen to the RCC.

It has not yet happened in 2000 years. The Church still stands as the pillar and bulwark of Truth. Though there have been periods of hardship and persecution, the Church itself remains.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The word Trinity is not used here, nor is it explained just as I said.

Would you make the claim that those who have accepted Christ as savior but do not belong to the organization called the RCC are not part of the body of Christ, the church?

No

So you would say then that because someone who is not Catholic said it that it pertains to all non Catholics? Would that then mean that all who are Catholics are pedophiles because some Catholics are?

What I said was in answer to your claim that you had not seen contentions that the Church cannot be true because of its past/present sinful leaders. You said you had only seen contentions regarding the way the scandal was handled.

I maintain that there have been those who have said that because some in the hierarchy are proven sinners the Church cannot be true.


637 posted on 11/02/2011 1:10:03 PM PDT by Jvette
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