The Holy Spirit does NOT lead in two different directions. Only one of us can be correct on this one.
>>you would have to deny that the Holy Spirit actually led me to that belief<<
Actually I would say the RCC has led many, many people away.
>>You concede God may have used the Church to preserve Scripture and define it, however incorrectly regarding the books rejected by protestants.<<
Check out the words to the different churches in the first few chapters of Revelation for examples.
>>Thus, the Holy Spirit guided the church, but not to all truth, just to some truth with the rest to be revealed at a later date, and then, stopped guiding the church altogether letting Christians everywhere fall into error until the “reformation”.<<
Pretty analogus to what happened to the Jews under the Pharisees and Sadducees isn’t it.
The Holy Spirit does NOT lead in two different directions. Only one of us can be correct on this one.
Actually I would say the RCC has led many, many people away.
And by whose authority do you get to say which of us is correct and that the Church has led people away. And away from what? Jesus? I find that quite arrogant since it is in the Church that Jesus in the Eucharist is found.
Check out the words to the different churches in the first few chapters of Revelation for examples.
That some fall away into apostasy and error is not the same as the Holy Spirit leading the Church to error or abandoning His role in leading the Church to only truth.
The words of Revelation are warnings to those who know the truth but tolerate deception and apostasy within the ranks.
Revelation reiterates that the truth has been spoken and that we are called to follow truth or suffer the consequences.
Revelations says that God will remove the lampstand from its place, which is meant that the church will cease to exist there as lampstand is understood to be a “church.”
But, the Church has not ceased to exist as a whole, because Jesus promised the church would teach truth and not error and it is not the church which teaches error, but believers who fall away from the truth to embrace error.
>>Thus, the Holy Spirit guided the church, but not to all truth, just to some truth with the rest to be revealed at a later date, and then, stopped guiding the church altogether letting Christians everywhere fall into error until the “reformation”.<<
Pretty analogus to what happened to the Jews under the Pharisees and Sadducees isn’t it.
So, did the Jews have the Holy Spirit as their advocate, guide and comforter before Jesus died and rose and sent Him? And did the Spirit stop guiding them at the most important time in history, i.e. when Jesus was with them and they refused to believe.