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To: CynicalBear
>>To say that you "have God" can be construed as saying that you own or hold in an subordinate role, the entity of God.<<

Or to have an obligation to or have a relationship with. Do you have faith? Do you hold that in subordinate role? Did you say “to have and to hold” when you got married? Do you hold your wife in a subordinate role? Do you have faith in your church and is that subordinate to you? Or should I just take that you hadn’t thought that one through much other than to construe a contrary stance?

Hardly. God is the Creator of All. I object to the seemingly casual presumption of possession or else the rather startling presumption of Buddy Christ. My relationship with my wife is not comparable on any level with my relationship with God.

577 posted on 11/02/2011 8:01:34 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear
My relationship with my wife is not comparable on any level with my relationship with God.

But it is comparable to Christ's relationship with the church.

And by convoluted RCC reasoning which allows them to claim that since Mary is the mother of Christ and Christ = God, then Mary is the mother of God, we can then state that since a man's relationship with his wife is comparable with Christ's relationship with the Church, and since Christ = God, then a man's relationship with his wife is comparable to the church's relationship to God.

So much for Catholic reasoning.

581 posted on 11/02/2011 8:10:05 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear
I object to the seemingly casual presumption of possession or else the rather startling presumption of Buddy Christ.

John 15:12-16 12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.

582 posted on 11/02/2011 8:13:13 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: MarkBsnr; metmom; smvoice
>> I object to the seemingly casual presumption of possession or else the rather startling presumption of Buddy Christ.<<

Object, deny, or refute that fact of having Christ in us all you want but take heed.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

584 posted on 11/02/2011 8:27:41 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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