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To: CynicalBear
>> You guys have Jesus. We worship Jesus. Worlds of difference.<<

Yes there is worlds of difference. I’m sorry to hear that you admit you don’t have Jesus. We do and we worship Him as well.

Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

The term "have" in English denotes possession. It also denotes the relative importance of the two subjects/objects in the sentence. To say that you "have God" can be construed as saying that you own or hold in an subordinate role, the entity of God.

That is the arrogance of Protestant thought - that they own or somehow control God for their own benefit. That is not a Catholic thought and never has been.

540 posted on 11/02/2011 4:40:04 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear
The term "have" in English denotes possession. It also denotes the relative importance of the two subjects/objects in the sentence.

Yes, we "have" God because HE gave us the gift of the Holy Spirit. To say that you "have God" can be construed as saying that you own or hold in an subordinate role, the entity of God.

In your dreams. That is only an opinion, a baseless assumption at best.

That is the arrogance of Protestant thought - that they own or somehow control God for their own benefit. That is not a Catholic thought and never has been.

BWAHAHAHA!!!!

562 posted on 11/02/2011 6:27:31 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: MarkBsnr
>>To say that you "have God" can be construed as saying that you own or hold in an subordinate role, the entity of God.<<

Or to have an obligation to or have a relationship with. Do you have faith? Do you hold that in subordinate role? Did you say “to have and to hold” when you got married? Do you hold your wife in a subordinate role? Do you have faith in your church and is that subordinate to you? Or should I just take that you hadn’t thought that one through much other than to construe a contrary stance?

566 posted on 11/02/2011 7:01:03 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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