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To: CynicalBear

“That’s easy. When they were commissioned to translate”

Who’s they? Who was commissioned by whom to translate the bible?

“they took the original manuscripts in the original language”

What “original manuscripts” did the translators use? There are no original manuscripts of scripture in existence. They are no longer extant.

They couldn’t have used the Codex Vaticanus because that wasn’t publicly available until the latter half of the 19th century. Same with Sinaiticus. Prior to then, the Vatican had access to Codex Vaticanus. It happens to be the oldest, and most complete Greek NT manuscript.

“and found significant errors in the Latin translations that the CC had done.”

We have better and older sources today that show no such significant errors.

“The CC had gotten by with it because of the lack of wide spread availability of written word.”

Sounds like a myth to me. The most widely distributed book in those times was the Bible. We can trace the changes over time, from the older Vulgates that we do possess.

“They had preserved but not disseminated the correct translation until the time of the Reformation.”

Nonsense. They preserved the Vulgate, which btw, uses sources that are non-extant and dates back to the early 4th century. Not as old as Codex Vaticanus, but much older than anything else available to translate from.

“Nope, the CC was using it’s own translations in Latin.”

It’s called the Vulgate.

“The reformers were using the original language documents directly into German.”

And the documents that they used were?

“Yep, that’s why he was given access to the original language documents. That’s when they found all the errors in the Latin translations.”

Then why was it him and not the other priests who ‘found’ these ‘errors’? Do you know that Luther used Erasmus’s translation, and certainly not the originals?

“Nope, trusted God to bring us what He wanted. Now that we have available to all the original language documents we find that he did it right.”

Uh, no we don’t have all the original documents. The oldest full bible we do have is the Codex Vaticanus which is the early 4th century. We have some fragments that are older than this, but we do not have all the original language documents.

We don’t even have an original LXX, let alone an original Gospel.

“The CC still today insists that the Catholics use their “approved” version.”

Absolutely, because the Vulgate uses sources that are no longer extant today, that are far older than anything else that we do have.


454 posted on 11/01/2011 5:52:28 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi
>> There are no original manuscripts of scripture in existence.<<

Doesn’t that make you wonder where the get the Greek and Hebrew lexicons then?

http://www.endtimepilgrim.org/puritans05.htm

463 posted on 11/01/2011 6:07:41 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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