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To: D-fendr
>> No thanks. You just want to be the fallible man with all authority, even over what is in the canon of Holy Scripture.<<

Yeah, didn’t think you would want to go there. Even fallible men know when the errors are so obvious it doesn’t take much to show they are from the deceiver not from God.

3,424 posted on 11/22/2011 1:15:02 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Sorry, you can’t exempt yourself from your own rule; you’re still just Fallible Man Talking.


3,425 posted on 11/22/2011 1:17:19 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: CynicalBear
I'd think they would want to distance themselves from claiming books that teach against their own dogmas as part of the Divinely-inspired Holy Scripture. For example, in 2 Maccabees 12:39-45, the passage where Catholics think to find Scriptural warrant for "praying for the dead" and thus "Purgatory", fail to realize that this passage disproves those very dogmas. The dead men in the passage were found clinging to idols of their false gods. Now, that would be considered a "mortal sin" to Catholics, would it not? So how is it that people who die in mortal sin can be "prayed" out of Hell? They wouldn't have gone to Purgatory with that kind of sin so must have been in hell.

My thinking on this whole Deuterocanonical/Apocryphal place in Scripture and the arguments used to demand their acceptance, only proves that the Council of Trent did this to dispute the claims of the Reformation about the Roman Catholic Church adding false doctrine to Christianity not affirmed by Scripture and, more importantly to them, remove the reliability of and recognition of the infallible nature of Holy Scripture. That is why people today don't trust the Bible, think it's made up of fairy tales or trust more in the "Church" to be the infallible authority over and above Holy Scripture from God. And we know EXACTLY where that kind of thinking originated.

3,512 posted on 11/22/2011 10:11:15 PM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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