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To: CynicalBear

Jesus quoted the Deuterocanicals. That makes them authoritative in my eyes and the eyes of the Church all by themselves. If you require the NT to quote every OT book as indicating authority, then you must remove Ezra, Nehemiah and several others from your already redacted Bible.


3,405 posted on 11/22/2011 9:57:32 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear
Jesus quoted the Deuterocanicals. That makes them authoritative in my eyes and the eyes of the Church all by themselves.

Again, Jesus never gave direct quotes from any of the disputed books, never said the words "it is written...", "thus sayeth the Lord...", "the word of the Lord...". Whereas dozens and dozens of times Jesus did so with the mutually recognized Old Testament books. Besides all that, simply alluding to, having a parallel of a thought or language or speaking of a particular ancient writing in and of itself does NOT automatically presume Divine authority. In Jude, some believe the Book of Enoch was quoted, but that book isn't in the Bible OR the Deuterocanonicals, is it? Some early church fathers quoted from them, but that was not what made them scripture. They quoted from other non-canonical books too, and they are never considered as Scripture either. The Council of Trent did not consider them as Scripture merely because some quoted from them.

But, hey, go right ahead and believe what you want. I'll stick with what I know is God's inspired word, his inerrant and infallible word.

3,506 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:41 PM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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