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To: Judith Anne; CynicalBear
"Each individual must receive the faith and law from the Church..with unquestioning submission and obedience of the intellect and the will..We have no right to ask reason of the Church, any more than Almighty God..We are to take with unquestioning docility whatever instructions the Church gives us." -The Catholic World, August 1871, vol. xiii, pp. 580-89. The Catholic World reminding all Roman Catholics in the United States at the time of the First Vatican Council.

"The Christian faithful, conscious of their own responsibility, are bound by Christian obedience to follow what the sacred pastors, as representatives of Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or determine as leaders of the Church." -Vatican II. The Code of Canon Law. Coriden , et al., op. cit. Canon 212, Section 1.

Looks to me like "The CC says only it can tell people what is true." And that is definitely "denying the Holy Spirit that indwells all true."

3,024 posted on 11/20/2011 2:39:57 PM PST by smvoice ("What, compare Scripture with Scripture?..We'll have to double the Magisterium...")
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To: smvoice

Your notion of each individual as the pillar and foundation of all truth is chaos, not the Church.

Even the small group on here can’t agree on truth.


3,026 posted on 11/20/2011 2:44:23 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smvoice; Religion Moderator

Your passage is found on a copyrighted page online, here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=4BnmQWtxeAIC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

amd here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=4BnmQWtxeAIC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

Which is a website linked to jesus-is-savior.com, a forbidden site by the Religion Mod.


3,029 posted on 11/20/2011 2:53:49 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: smvoice
>>"Each individual must receive the faith and law from the Church..with unquestioning submission and obedience of the intellect and the will<<

That’s also one of the criteria for a cult.

3,033 posted on 11/20/2011 3:11:31 PM PST by CynicalBear
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