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To: MarkBsnr; metmom; Iscool; boatbums; Jvette
"It never says sola.". True, but what does this say?

2 Tim.3:16,17. Paul declares through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that Scripture was given for "doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, AND that the Bible itself makes that man of God "perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

The Bible contains all the doctrine, correction, and instruction in righteousness that is needed for those who are in Christ.

This means that Scripture gives us ALL we need to be ALL that God desires us to be. The Bible needs no supplementation from tradition, doctrines of men, or any other sourse. According to the Holy Spirit, Who inspired Paul to write these words to Timothy.

Paul goes on to say that the man of God is, by the Scriptures THEMSELVES, "THOROUGHLY PREPARED UNTO EVERY GOOD WORK."

Sola Scriptura in all its GLORY. The Reformation did not invent Sola Scriptura, they derived it from Scripture. 2 Tim. 3:16,17. Unless you want to argue with what the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write, I'd say the subject of Sola Scriptura is sufficiently proven in Scripture.

2,924 posted on 11/19/2011 6:50:01 PM PST by smvoice ("What, compare Scripture with Scripture?..We'll have to double the Magisterium...")
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To: smvoice
"It never says sola.".

True, but what does this say?

2 Tim.3:16,17. Paul declares through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that Scripture was given for "doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, AND that the Bible itself makes that man of God "perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

In short, all Scripture is excellent, but nowhere does it say that it is all that there is. For instance, you guys disdain the Deuterocanonicals and call them Apocrypha (which they are not).

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=30920 says that:

Jesus and the Gospel writers referenced the Deuterocanonicals in the following instances:

Matthew 6:12, 14-15---"Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors; if you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you do not forgive others, neither will your heavenly father forgive your transgressions."

Sirach 28:2---"Forgive your neighbor's injustice; then when you pray, your own sins will be forgiven."

Luke 1:17 (describing John the Baptist)---"He will go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah to turn the hearts of fathers towards children and the disobediant to the understanding of the righteous, to prepare a people fit for the Lord."

Sirach 48:10---"You are destined, it is written, in time to come, to put an end to wrath before the day of the Lord, to turn back the hearts of fathers towards their sons, and to re-establish the tribes of Jacob."

Luke 1:28, 1:42---"And coming to her, he said, 'Hail, favored one! The Lord is with you!'.....Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb." Judith 13:18---"Then Uzziah said to her: 'Blessed are you, daughter, by the Most High God, above all the women of the earth; and blessed be the Lord God, the Creator of heaven and earth.

Luke 1:52---"He has thrown down the rulers from their thrones, but lifted up the lowly." Sirach 10:14---"The thrones of the arrogant God overturns, and establishes the lowly in their stead."

Luke 12:19-20---"I shall say to myself, 'Now as for you, you have so many good things stored up for many years, rest, eat, drink, be merry!' But God said to him, 'You fool, this night your life will be demanded of you; and the things you have prepared, to whom will they belong?'"

Sirach 11:19---"When he says: 'I have found rest, now I will feast on my possessions,' he does not know how long it will be till he dies and leaves them to others."

Luke 18:22---"When Jesus heard this, he said to him, 'There is still one thing left for you: sell all that you have and distribute it to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.'"

Sirach 29:11---"Dispose of your treasure as the Most High commands, for that will profit you more than the gold." John 3:12---"If I tell you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things?"

Wisdom 9:16---"Scarce do we guess the things on earth, and what is within our grasp we find with difficulty; but when things are in heaven, who can search them out?"

John 5:18---"For this reason the Jews tried all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the Sabbath, but he also called God his own Father, making himself equal to God."

Wisdom 2:16---"He judges us debased; he holds aloof from our paths as from things impure. He calls blest the destiny of the just and boasts that God is his Father."

John 10:29---"My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one can take them out of the Father's hand."

Wisdom 3:1---"But the souls of the just are in the hand of God, and no torment shall touch them."

If Jesus referenced the Deuterocanonicals, then they must mean something, no?

This means that Scripture gives us ALL we need to be ALL that God desires us to be. The Bible needs no supplementation from tradition, doctrines of men, or any other sourse. According to the Holy Spirit, Who inspired Paul to write these words to Timothy.

Paul goes on to say that the man of God is, by the Scriptures THEMSELVES, "THOROUGHLY PREPARED UNTO EVERY GOOD WORK."

Notice that it says good work. Not salvation. It does not hint at it, mean it or infer it. Good work.

Sola Scriptura in all its GLORY. The Reformation did not invent Sola Scriptura, they derived it from Scripture. 2 Tim. 3:16,17. Unless you want to argue with what the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write, I'd say the subject of Sola Scriptura is sufficiently proven in Scripture.

I am not Abraham or Moses. I dare not argue with God. It is your interpretation of plain Scripture that I contest.

3,269 posted on 11/21/2011 4:42:47 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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