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To: MarkBsnr
>> Wtihin the context of Jesus teaching, of course, He wanted them to pay attention to Him at the moment, rather than disturb His teachings to the crowd.<<

That is so lame it doesn’t deserve comment other than to call it nonsense.

>> However we still have the elaborate verses in Luke 1<<

The words spoken to Mary were no different then were spoken to Jael in Judges. In fact, Jael was called blessed above women. Mary was called blessed among women.

Luke 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Judges 5:24 Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be,

Those words were also spoken of Noah, Moses, and David.

The Greek word charitoó is used by Catholics to try to point to Mary being “full of grace” or “highly favored. The word charitoo according to Greek concordances is: From charis; to grace, i.e. Indue with special honor -- make accepted, be highly favoured. [http://concordances.org/greek/5487.htm]

The word is used twice in the New Testament. Once in Luke 1 and the other in Ephesians 1.

Ephesians 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

2,348 posted on 11/15/2011 6:37:15 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
>> Wtihin the context of Jesus teaching, of course, He wanted them to pay attention to Him at the moment, rather than disturb His teachings to the crowd.<<

That is so lame it doesn’t deserve comment other than to call it nonsense.

Hmm, those who amassed the Bible and canonized Scripture and the rest of the Church Fathers didn't find it lame.

The Greek word charitoó is used by Catholics to try to point to Mary being “full of grace” or “highly favored. The word charitoo according to Greek concordances is: From charis; to grace, i.e. Indue with special honor -- make accepted, be highly favoured. [http://concordances.org/greek/5487.htm]

Luke 1:28 - the phrase "full of grace" is translated from the Greek word "kecharitomene." This is a unique title given to Mary, and suggests a perfection of grace from a past event. Mary is not just "highly favored." She has been perfected in grace by God. "Full of grace" is only used to describe one other person - Jesus Christ in John 1:14.

from http://www.scripturecatholic.com/blessed_virgin_mary.html

2,442 posted on 11/16/2011 8:03:46 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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