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To: MarkBsnr
>>Since you have abandoned Christ (another term for sinning), He will send you to the fate you have chosen. If you refuse Christ, what does He say about you?<<

No,no,no. You’re not getting me here. If Christ is “in you”. Maybe this will give you a starting point.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

2,344 posted on 11/15/2011 6:27:05 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
No,no,no. You’re not getting me here. If Christ is “in you”. Maybe this will give you a starting point.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

I think for some people you can be a "sheep" one day and then a "goat" the next, then a sheep, then a goat, all depending upon your behavior from one moment to the next. No wonder they have no assurance of their salvation and mock and ridicule those who dare to say they are sheep. The wonderful truth of God's word is that we know he knows his sheep and we know we know he is our shepherd and he will never lose us or cast us out of his sheepfold. We trust in HIS promises.

2,387 posted on 11/15/2011 8:46:35 PM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: CynicalBear
>>Since you have abandoned Christ (another term for sinning), He will send you to the fate you have chosen. If you refuse Christ, what does He say about you?<<

No,no,no. You’re not getting me here.

I think that I am. I think that you are selecting certain verses and ignoring others such as:

John 14: 21Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. And whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and reveal myself to him.”o

John 15: You are already pruned because of the word that I spoke to you.b 4Remain in me, as I remain in you. Just as a branch cannot bear fruit on its own unless it remains on the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in me. 5I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me and I in him will bear much fruit, because without me you can do nothing. 6* c Anyone who does not remain in me will be thrown out like a branch and wither; people will gather them and throw them into a fire and they will be burned.

One of the lessons of the Reformation is selecting certain verses and ignoring others. When Jesus tells us one thing and at another time, another thing, then both are required, not the one that you like better at the moment.

2,437 posted on 11/16/2011 6:46:18 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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