[MarkBsnr]

>>The handing down of the Faith goes back to what Jesus taught the Apostles.<<

Yes it does. To bad the RCC screwed up so bad by going back under the law.

Actually, we went under the Commandments of Christ, not the Law.

>>It does not include those who create their own faith by gazing at the content of their navels.<<

I don’t suppose it does. You must have met people who “gaze into their navels”. I haven’t nor have I accused anyone of doing that. That’s a nice tactic from those who run out of support for their faith but it sure looks immature to me.

It sure is immature. I have met many. When I question in depth, they retreat to the point where they in effect admit to this strategy. There appear to be only two positions: submission to the Church, or submission to the theology of the moment. The Reformation promoted the theology of the moment.

[CynicalBear]

>> The Reformation promoted the theology of the moment.<<

What utter nonsense. I would point to the theology of the moment the CC used to placate the pagans in Ephesus when they decided to add the “queen of heaven” idea replacing Diana who the pagans worshiped. Much easier to get the pagans to come to “church” if you have their “queen of heaven” mantra to cling to.

[metmom]

There appear to be only two positions: submission to the Church, or submission to the theology of the moment.

And you missed the most important one. Submission to Christ.

If you think there's only those two options that you gave, you are in way bigger trouble than you realize.

[Lera]

Actually, we went under the Commandments of Christ, not the Law.

Really ?


Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.


Is the trail of blood left by the Roman Catholic church is how they loved their neighbors as themselves ?

Lets see what he says to James and John when they wanted to call down fire and destroy those who did not want to receive him .


Luke 9:52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.
Luk 9:53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.
Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. Luk 9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.


Before you make an excuse that it was ok because they only executed heretics that claimed to Christians have another read as HE says He will say to reapers to take care of the tares at the time of the harvest.

Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?


Care to clarify just which of HIS commandments is it that you are under? Cause it just doesn't seem that your church is under his most important two especially with all the prayers to Mary