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To: MarkBsnr; metmom; smvoice; boatbums
>>Then why the reliance on Paul?<<

Reliance on Paul? Are you denying that the words of Paul were not words the Holy Spirit gave Paul to write? Paul was after all the Apostle to the Gentiles right? All the gospels are used but the words of the Holy Spirit to Paul were specifically meant for us Gentiles were they not? Would you deny that by quoting Paul we are quoting the Holy Spirit?

1,762 posted on 11/12/2011 6:51:24 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Reliance on Paul? Are you denying that the words of Paul were not words the Holy Spirit gave Paul to write?

Absolutely not. I do deny however, that Paul is to be used to the exclusion of Jesus.

Paul was after all the Apostle to the Gentiles right?

Well, let us examine that. Who converted the first Gentile? Not Paul. Who spent most of his recorded journeys' time with the Jews? Paul. The problem is that Paul is identified as the Apostle to the Jews. Some idiots think that Paul was the super Apostle, the perfect one, because Jesus couldn't get the first 12 right. If you read Acts, Paul is an also. Not a primary.

All the gospels are used but the words of the Holy Spirit to Paul were specifically meant for us Gentiles were they not?

They were directed to the churches under Paul's jurisdiction, as a bishop of the Church, and not as a successor or an elevation of Christ.

Would you deny that by quoting Paul we are quoting the Holy Spirit?

I would say that the Gospels which quote Christ are elevated above Paul, which quote a bishop of Christ. One is superior to the other.

1,811 posted on 11/12/2011 3:25:10 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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