[D-fendr]

Unless, of course, as discussed earlier, it turns out your faith is dead.

I don't know why you're going off topic here. I guess 'cause I used the phrase "believe to receive" in my last post in response to your question earlier.

This was concerning one's motivation to believe. [how many works are enough; how much belief is enough..] And my response was that if our belief or works are motivated by our own selfish reward, then I think we're on the wrong track.

I was thinking like this or like this…

[metmom]

I guess 'cause I used the phrase "believe to receive" in my last post in response to your question earlier.

There's a difference between *believe AND receive* and *believe TO receive*.

I've heard the first one often enough. I don't have a clue where you got the second one or why you're making an issue about it.

It's kind of weird for someone to make something up and then argue with someone about it.

[metmom]

*believe to receive* is too much prosperity gospel.

It’s not really related to salvation but to getting stuff to spend on their lusts.