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To: CynicalBear

Yet you cite the teachings of the Fathers of the church....

It seems we should find among the doctrines of scripture that of sola scriptura, but that is not what we see.


17 posted on 10/28/2011 12:47:44 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi; CynicalBear
Perhaps you just choose to ignore what Scripture says about itself.

"All SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." 2 Tim. 3:16,17.

Want doctrine? Read Scripture. Want to find true correction? See Bible. Want to know what God's righteousness for man is? Refer to God's Word. Want to be perfect in God's eyes, completely and thoroughly furnished to be His workman? God's Word will THOROUGHLY furnish you.

I didn't say it. HE did. That's His promise. That Scripture is ALL we need.

18 posted on 10/28/2011 12:59:19 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: BenKenobi
>> It seems we should find among the doctrines of scripture that of sola scriptura, but that is not what we see.<<

Say what?

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Would you say that it gets better than what scripture calls “perfect, thoroughly furnished”? Did the Holy Spirit forget to tell Paul to include some except phrases or did Paul neglect to write that part down?

Now let’s look at how “tradition” is mentioned and treated in scripture.

II Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Paul didn’t say scripture and tradition were separate truths. He says whether they were delivered orally or in writing. There aren’t two different things there, it’s simply at times it was delivered in writing and sometimes only orally due to a lack of written copies or whatever. Even the Catholic Church, when accused of keeping written scripture from the lay people, will sanctimoniously proclaim that it was only due to not having printing presses so the gospel could only be given orally.

24 posted on 10/28/2011 1:29:25 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: BenKenobi; CynicalBear
It seems we should find among the doctrines of scripture that of sola scriptura, but that is not what we see.

There seems to be a lot of things you don't see in the scriptures...But they are there...We see them...

109 posted on 10/30/2011 6:21:26 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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