Has it occurred to you yet that man sees the outward appearance but God sees the heart? You don't "see" us do what? We don't kneel in church so that means we don't bow the knee to Jesus and confess he is LORD to the glory of God the Father? You think kneeling in church is what Paul told the Philippians that one day ALL would bow and confess Jesus Christ as LORD? Sometimes, I am convinced you just like to kid around and get a rise out of people, other times I think you may not "get it" at all but only think you do. Here's my last word on this subject, God cares more about "bowing the knee" in a heart attitude than physically kneeling before him. Someone certainly can do both - submitting to him and confessing him as LORD AND kneeling - but it's ONLY the bowing of the heart that matters.
What? Bowing the knee in the privacy of your own home in prayer doesn’t count because nobody else sees it and knows about it?
So much for not doing works to be seen by men.
It’s kind of mind boggling the things men will use to judge another’s spirituality over things that Jesus never said counted.
Those who appeal to their good religious works are the ones to whom Jesus says, I never knew you.
I would suggest that it matters how we “bow in our hearts”....yes...but we are corporeal creatures and we express our hearts and our lives and our being with our bodies while we are here on earth. Our body language speaks for us so strongly that it can be quite accurately interpreted by a baby who has not yet mastered speech.
When we pray, whether it is kneeling or standing or sitting or prostrate, we are praying with our bodies, as the spirit moves us. We are Magdalene weeping at the feet of Jesus; we are the woman seeking to touch the cloak of Jesus; we are John resting his head on the breast of the Lord; we are Peter crying out from the boat “It is the Lord!”.
It seems to me to be such a waste of time and purpose to have an on-going debate about who and why and how people kneel before God.
Once again,...in both real and practical terms...it boils down to one’s own individual and personal, very personal, way of expressing our communio with the Lord.
Why it should take many posts and many words to debate this very fluid issue is beyond me.
Has it occurred to you yet that man sees the outward appearance but God sees the heart? You don't "see" us do what? We don't kneel in church so that means we don't bow the knee to Jesus and confess he is LORD to the glory of God the Father? You think kneeling in church is what Paul told the Philippians that one day ALL would bow and confess Jesus Christ as LORD? Sometimes, I am convinced you just like to kid around and get a rise out of people, other times I think you may not "get it" at all but only think you do. Here's my last word on this subject, God cares more about "bowing the knee" in a heart attitude than physically kneeling before him. Someone certainly can do both - submitting to him and confessing him as LORD AND kneeling - but it's ONLY the bowing of the heart that matters.
It is one manifestation. My point is that you guys do not manifest any thing of the sort, but only talk about it. We do it and can be seen to do it, not because we wish to be seen, but because that is part of who we are and what we do. I see it as very lacking on your end, simply because of a) no obvious manifestation, and b) the amount of smoke screen generated. There is no indication that this is conformed with; there is only a defense lawyer "maybe" or "could be".