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To: smvoice
"And He said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved..."And these signs SHALL follow THEM THAT BELIEVE; In my name SHALL they cast out devils; they SHALL speak with new tongues; they SHALL take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it SHALL not hurt them; they SHALL lay hands on the sick, and they SHALL recover." Mark 16:15-18.

Who was He saying this to? The Eleven. And by implication their successors. He was telling them to perform or be associated with miracles. Hint: what does the requirement for a Catholic Saint include?

1,593 posted on 11/09/2011 9:11:51 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Wrong. He said “And these signs SHALL follow THEM THAT BELIEVE.” It plainly states that ALL signs are for ALL who believe. Not a select few. THEM THAT BELIEVE. C’mon, read the words as they are. Not as you want them to be.


1,597 posted on 11/09/2011 9:15:12 PM PST by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: MarkBsnr
Who was He saying this to? The Eleven. And by implication their successors. He was telling them to perform or be associated with miracles. Hint: what does the requirement for a Catholic Saint include?

Sorry, but you're not going to get away with stealing God's word and warping it into something it doesn't say...

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

He that believes and is baptized is saved...He that is baptized but doesn't believe is damned...

There are numerous scriptures where folks are saved before baptism...Water baptism then, doesn't save...It the repentance that saves...

That's like 'pre-school' for a bible student...

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Jesus is not talking dead so-called Saints here; those who you have no idea of where their present location may be...

And Jesus is not talking about your mythological successors either...

Can you read what it says in 4th grade English??? It says those signs will follow those who believe...Those that the Apostles led to the Risen Lord, Jesus Christ...

Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

There ought to be then thousands of Catholics who can do these things, WITH PROOF...You claim to be a bible teacher...Can you do any of these things???

Hint: what does the requirement for a Catholic Saint include?

You have no evidence whatsoever whether your so-called Saints are in heaven, or hell...How in the world are you going to attribute miracles to them???

1,621 posted on 11/10/2011 5:16:56 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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