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To: CynicalBear
Up until the Reformation the Apocryphal books were not part of the canon. The Apocryphal "writings were not officially declared to be divinely inspired, and included in the Catholic canon of Scripture as such, until 1546 at the Council of Trent.

Absolutely, completely, and utterly false.

They were recognized by the Council of Florence in 1442 (Bull of Union with the Copts).

They were recognized by a letter of Pope Innocent I, AD 408.

They were recognized by the 3rd Council of Carthage, AD 397.

They were recognized by the Council of Hippo, AD 393.

They were recognized by the "Tome" of Pope Damasus read at the Council of Rome, AD 382.

At that point, we're back to an era when the New Testament canon was still in flux.

Doesn't it bother you that Protestant apologists blatantly lie about something that can be easily demonstrated from history?

103 posted on 10/29/2011 6:02:31 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Campion
What you neglect to say is that each of those had books left out or different books in at each stage. The canon as we know it today was not fixed until the council of Trent (1645-1563) for the Catholic Church. The Protestants declared aginst the authority of the Apocryphal books at Westminster Assembly in 1647 which is now considered the authorized version of the Bible.

Concerning the work of these councils, William Penn writes as follows: "I say how do they know that these men discerned true from spurious? Now, sure it is, that some of the Scriptures taken in by one council were rejected by another for apocryphal, and that which was left out by the former for apocryphal was taken in by the latter for canonical." (Penn's Works, Vol. I, p. 302).

Eusebius in the fourth century disputed Hebrews, James, Second and Third John, Jude, Revelation, shepherd of Hermas, Epicstle of Brnabas, Acts of Paul, and Revelation of Peter.

Athanasius rejected Esther, and Epiphanius accepted the Epistle of Jeremiah. Chrysostom omitted ten books from his canon-- First and Second Chronicles, Esther, Job, and Lamentations from the Old Testament and Second Peter, Second and Third John, Jude, and Revelation, of the New Testament. Cyril, Bishop of Jerusalem, and Gregory, Bishop of Constantinople, both rejected Revelation.

106 posted on 10/29/2011 7:32:23 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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