They've all read this book:
Posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:29 AM PDT by markomalley
Prove it.
I didn't know that you are a rap star.
Every bit as much as I am, if not more so.
They've all read this book:
She was made sinless at the moment of conception. And no she did not have any children. If you look up the original Hebrew, the word “brother” was an error in translation, the hebrew word meant close family member or possibly cousin. It is believed that Joseph had children from another marriage.
MB: Neither Scripture nor Tradition identify it.
John 19: 16-22 16 So he delivered him over to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus, 17and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called The Place of a Skull, which in Aramaic is called Golgotha. 18 There they crucified him, and with him two others, one on either side, and Jesus between them. 19Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the cross. It read, "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews." 20Many of the Jews read this inscription, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Aramaic, in Latin, and in Greek. 21So the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, "Do not write, 'The King of the Jews,' but rather, 'This man said, I am King of the Jews.'" 22Pilate answered, "What I have written I have written."
Even those in the Catholic Faith believe that Jesus Christ atoned for our sins. However, you are mistaken about the “Catholic” thing. When the Creed was formulated, there WAS one, universal and CATHOLIC faith. Not Roman, not Greek, but simply the CHURCH. Capital C.
Baptism is not an option. It is commanded by the Savior, but Godparents commit the child, and adults commit themselves.
It IS a sacrament. It is a Holy Mystery, and when the child or adult is baptized, the Holy Spirit is conferred.
I cannot condemn many things about Southern Baptist. I received one of the best scriptural educations EVER there.
However, since they reject most things Catholic by nature, they do not recite the Creed. (most dont even know it exists) nor do they have the fullness of the faith. In 1617 when the Baptist Church was founded, they were basically an offshoot of Anababtists.
Not based on our recent conversation.
None of which is supported by Scripture.
On the contrary,....
Romans 3:21-26 21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
1 John 1:8-10 8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Tell me, WHY did Mary remain a virgin or need to remain a virgin after the birth of Jesus? Prophecy had already been fulfilled. What was the point?
Why ids it unreasonable to think that Jesus had half brothers and half sisters through Mary?
The Greek clearly uses the word *adelphos* meaning brother and *adelphé* meaning sister.
http://concordances.org/greek/80.htm
adelphos
Word Origin: from alpha (as a cop. prefix) and delphus (womb)
Definition: a brother
And sister.....
http://concordances.org/greek/79.htm
adelphé
Word Origin: fem. from adelphos
Definition: sister
From the womb..... Imagine that......
No hell for me either.
More Protestant self declaration of personal salvation. Do you wait to tell Christ this face to face, or have you emailed Him with your decision?
Ok..
Lesson One. The Setup of the Ancient Church
The first Bishop of the Church was James, “Brother” of our Lord. The first Church Council was held in Jerusalem.
The early Church consisted of five Archbishoprics, or Patriarchates. Jerusalem, Antioch, Rome, Alexandria, Constantinople. The Bishops of these Churches had areas of authority, and did NOT have jurisdiction over the other areas.
No one Bishop had universal authority. Because the Imperial City was Rome, The Pope was given the Title: Primus Interpares, or first among equals. He was the tie-breaker so to speak. He sometimes called together Ecumenical Councils, but the Emperor did also. He did not have authority over the other bishops. Doctrine could NOT be formulated except by a Holy Ecumenical Council.
I recommend it to everyone who wishes to understand antiCatholicism and the antiChristian attitude of the Reformation.
Absolutely agree. It sheds much light on the Reformation.
Hello!! Nobody ever said anything but that.
You guys claim that all the time.
You wish.
Your posts are very conclusive.
Go to the Hebrew. not the greek.
She was made sinless to be the vessel that held God. Jesus could not be born in a vessel corrupted by sin.
Metmom: with all due respect. we cannot discuss further if you insist on verification by scripture alone. This was not the way of the Ancient Church. This was a purely Protestant variation. The Catholic Church both East and West held Holy Tradition to be at the same level. Not every oral teaching of the Apostles was included in the Canon.
The Reformation was started by three of them. For 10 points, can you name them?
In other words, we wrote and interpreted and selected Scripture. You, on the other hand reserve the right to not only pick and choose your selection of Scripture, but to interpret it your own way and derive your own doctrines and beliefs while blaming the Holy Spirit for whatever it is that you wind up with, right?
John says there were three languages used. John, Matthew and Luke each quote a slightly different version of what is written which tells me what each of those inscriptions says. It’s either that or the whole of scripture is untrustworthy. No outside knowledge or information needed.
You told me that Matthew wrote the inscription in Hebrew (unlikely), then you left Mark as unknown, then you claimed Luke wrote it in Greek, and finally John in Latin (also unlikely). You got one right, only because we know that the NT was written entirely in Greek. What is your claim for the others based upon? In other words, without any historical or Church Father claim, you simply made this up.
Prove it.
The burdon of proof is upon you; either that or admit that you make stuff up.
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