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To: daniel1212; Mad Dawg; Bulwyf; Clay+Iron_Times; noprogs; metmom; CynicalBear; Secret Agent Man
OK, another long and pointless post. To stay on topic, this seems to be one aspect in it that requires my attention:

This can be understood as only invoking it insofar as fire being purifying

Bingo. That is all the Purgatory is: purification preceding the entry into Heaven,necessary for some but perhaps not for all.

As to the lines of authority in the Church, trust me, they are not limited to the comments to some half-baked American translation of the Holy Scripture. If you have a direct question, I will be glad to answer.

338 posted on 10/25/2011 6:01:43 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; daniel1212
OK, another long and pointless post.

Yeah. Hey! I'll do all the long and pointless posting that's needed around here!

:-)

339 posted on 10/25/2011 6:31:17 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: annalex; CynicalBear
OK, another long and pointless post.

Rather, part of a point by point rebuttal.

To stay on topic, this seems to be one aspect in it that requires my attention:

This can be understood as only invoking it insofar as fire being purifying

Bingo. That is all the Purgatory is: purification preceding the entry into Heaven,necessary for some but perhaps not for all.

Bingo is not like purgatory either. “All” in essence, sure, but its the developed details that have been the issue.

As shown, among other aspects purgatory is contrary to 1Cor. 3:15 in time (2nd coming, not commencing at death) and in type (of loss, which is not one's own character defects which gains him entrance into glory, but the fruit of such, that of converts, a loss which the builder is saved despite of, not because of).

391 posted on 10/25/2011 3:48:53 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: annalex; daniel1212
This can be understood as only invoking it insofar as fire being purifying

Bingo. That is all the Purgatory is: purification preceding the entry into Heaven,necessary for some but perhaps not for all.

Tell me then, if Purgatory is such a vital and necessary part of our transition into Heaven, why pray for those undergoing it? Why ask for their comfort, their expedited processing, their release from it? Why tell people that prayers to Mary - who is claimed to be the Queen over Purgatory - gain her merciful acts to free the souls still there? If, as you say, this place is only a necessary, final step to glory, why should there be anything said, done or paid to hurry the process up? Why rush perfecting?

405 posted on 10/25/2011 5:12:53 PM PDT by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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