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To: metmom; cva66snipe
On again, off again salvation. You can have it. God promises us in Scripture that we're secure, that He gave us the Holy Spirit as a deposit guaranteeing what is to come.

I don't see why it's so hard to understand that if you say a person is saved by grace but "kept" saved by their works (like abstaining from sinning) it is no different than saying a person is saved by their works (being good, not sinning, etc.). Grace means undeserved, unmerited favor and, by definition, whatever is offered by grace cannot then be merited or deserved. Over and over we are told in Scripture that God saves us by his mercy and grace so who are we to come along and shove his gift back in his face insisting that we CAN earn, merit or deserve it?

This has nothing to do with our goodness because, compared to the holiness and righteousness of God, all we can muster up is comparable to filthy rags. We are saved by grace because it HAD to be grace. No amount of good works, deeds, efforts can pay the penalty of sin because God said "blood makes an atonement for the soul" (Lev. 17:11). He made us and he made the rules. It's his way or hell - and that ain't the highway!

307 posted on 10/24/2011 8:50:29 PM PDT by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums
Galatians 3 1O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? 4 Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? 5Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— 6just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"?

7Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. 8And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed." 9So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

309 posted on 10/24/2011 8:59:58 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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