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To: daniel1212; annalex
Thus if you resort to negating its comments then you impugn the authority of the very Roman Catholic church which you are defending as the supreme teacher.

(How shall I represent the loud buzzer noise?)
;-)
Alternatively: What have you been SMOKING!

Protestants deprive themselves of one of the joys of being Catholic, namely: grumbling about our bishops. The whole humorous irony of our "faith" which seems ever to escape our opponents, is that we fervently maintain that God has preserved the Church as the "pillar of truth" in SPITE of, not because of, the bishops and others in authority. We almost enjoy outrages like the NAB, because they remind us that our help is in the Name of the Lord -- as opposed to the USCCB

(IMHO) Because of the Magisterium, the issues raised by the notes and by the execrable translation are due our consideration. We use the blessed thing in our Masses. Why are appropriately subservient to that point.

But just as (and it pains me as a Thomist to say this - kidding) John Paul II of blessed memory said there is no official philosophy of the Church (in Fides et Ratio), so I think we can say there is no official exegesis or technique of "higher criticism" or any such thing of the Church.

IF asked, I have no problem 'sharing' in RCIA some of the methods and conjectures of the "higher criticism," and I have found some things, esp. formgeschichte, to be useful.

But I ALWAYS say firmly, that the Scriptures were discerned by the Church and handed on to us as the crown and jewel and, indeed, canon of all things handed on -- traditions. And however else we read it, we should read it as it is given.

And I think even "dynamically equivalent" scribes and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops cannot dim its light. I do not worry (well, not TOO much) because the Lord fights for me.

198 posted on 10/24/2011 6:54:16 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Mad Dawg; daniel1212
we fervently maintain that God has preserved the Church as the "pillar of truth" in SPITE of, not because of, the bishops and others in authority. We almost enjoy outrages like the NAB, because they remind us that our help is in the Name of the Lord -- as opposed to the USCCB

This is very good point. The Catholics are never alone reading the scripture as we read it in the company of the Fathers of the Church and in conversation with them. Modernity, with all its reformations, aggiornamentos, and whatever else is thrown our way cannot shake that.

295 posted on 10/24/2011 7:01:21 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Mad Dawg

I find your candid statement rare, and i basically concur in principle, in the sense that i do not see an assuredly infallible magisterium as being necessary for truth to be preserved. But God raises up men from without the formal magisterium if needed, to reprove such leaders who depart from the faith and cause souls to err. (Is. 9:16) And which i have often commented on, and i have a headache from weak glasses and its too late to add much more.


310 posted on 10/24/2011 9:04:58 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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