[CynicalBear]

Those who accept the completed work of Christ will stand before God without blemish only because of the work of Christ, not through any effort of their own.

[Mad Dawg]

Okay.What do you say to my contentionthat anessential part of being human is being responsible and that to deny us a part, albeit highly derivative -- so much so that we say Christ does the work, is to deny what makes us humans?

I'm not asking this contentiously (or not meaning to, anyway. It's a problem I've been working on since 1973.