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To: Blind Eye Jones; Mrs. Don-o
The course I'm taking, I think, will be pushing for gay inclusion and if they are not included it will be seen as a sign of the churches hatred for homosexuals (homophobia).

Any good Christian understands that hatred of homosexuals is wrong. No doubt people sometimes get carried away and say hateful things, but that is not endorsed by traditional Christian teachings.

The teaching of the Catholic Church, and I would venture to say of most decent Protestant pastors, is that homosexuality is a disorder. It is unnatural, because the basic intention of nature and nature's God is that male and female should come together to produce children. And, of course, with human beings that includes marriage. Even Darwin would say that homosexuality is a disorder, because it does not lead to the propagation of the species.

Having a disorder is not in itself sinful. Most true homosexuals simply cannot help their inclinations and desires. But it becomes a sin if it is put into actual practice--or if it becomes a political argument where the proponents try to convince others that homosexual acts are good in themselves.

Homophobia is one of those invented words, used in Orwellian fashion to disguise the true facts. Christians are NOT homophobes--i.e., haters of homosexuals. Rather, as Jesus taught, they hate the sin, but not the sinner.

In some cases, homosexual inclinations seem to be built in, in which case the Christian thing to do is to avoid doing it. In other cases, kids have been mistaught, and it is possible to convert them to being normal heterosexuals.

But, of course, there's another Catch 22 there. According to PC doctrine, it's OK to teach kindergarteners to be homosexuals. But it's WRONG to give grown up homosexuals a chance to change their ways. Under the name of tolerance, the leftist teachers of these sorts of practices are, as usual, extremely intolerant.

73 posted on 10/23/2011 10:49:11 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Cicero

We all have areas of weakness in which we are tempted that are unique to us. My temptations are not the same as others.

OTOH, I have no such temptation for gambling or drunkenness as some others struggle with.

But temptation is not sin. The temptation to engage in homosexual behavior is not sin. Those who struggle with it do not sin unless they give into it. They struggle with the sin, not what they are. To identify yourself as a sin or as a disorder *I’m a homosexual* or *I’m a diabetic* or *I’m a ____________* anything, is, for the Christian, to deny Christ in them.

A Christian is a son of God, not a sin or disorder.


78 posted on 10/23/2011 11:21:29 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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This is in the religion forum - just letting everyone know. Excellent comments from many different angles proving why the Bibles' teachings on homosexual are true, worthy and not "savage".

159 posted on 10/24/2011 12:39:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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