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To: johngrace

>>> For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit,

If you quoted this passage as an example of unforgivable sin, I would like to point out a couple of things...

1. “Fallen away” is not a reference to condemnation

2. “Renew again to repentance” is not a reference to salvation.

Those are key operative phrases that can easily be confused with condemnation and salvation, but they are more in line with a person’s state of mind... which is what is being discussed.

My short interpretation of that passage is “Those who turn from the faith (fall away) are vulnerable to an early death.”

Another alternate reading of that passage refers to those who have actually seen the works of the Holy Spirit, and still turned away (refused to accept Jesus). In other words, if the Holy Spirit Himself cannot win a person’s heart to Christ, it is impossible for anyone else to.

Since it is difficult to understand exactly who is being referred to in verse four (saved or unsaved), I would offer both interpretations as possibilities... but I would not say this passage refers to the unpardonable sin.


19 posted on 10/14/2011 7:39:00 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
Your entitled to your opinion.

Hebrews 6

7" For ground that drinks the rain which often [e]falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God;

8 BUT if it Yields thorns and thistles, it is Worthless and close [f]to being Cursed, and [g]it ends up being BURNED."

Remember it was in a story I read. It does not mean it was true either. But the verses do speak for themselves at times. I read mine in the Holy Spirit. Meaning after very much Prayers in the Spirit. If we read it without any real prayer time we can be dangerous to say what it really is meaning. Of course that is in my opinion.

Freeper Regards!

20 posted on 10/14/2011 7:59:28 PM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4!- which is also declared at every sunday mass.)
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