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To: narses; Absolutely Nobama; Elendur; it_ürür; Bockscar; Mary Kochan; Bed_Zeppelin; Dutchboy88
Often they hold to the heretical belief "Once Saved, Always Saved" and sometimes the predestination theory of the "elect"

That is an excellent point. OSAS is a flawed Protestant doctrine built upon the errors of Rome's Palegius heresy. Unfortunately, as you rightfully point out, many Protestants have fallen for this grievous error. I would point our Protestant brethren to the following confession:

Contrary to the Catholic work oriented belief, Protestants believe there is nothing you can do to work on your salvation. Your salvation is a gift given from God and God will keep you, working with you patiently as a loving Father guiding His children. At time those children may fall into sin and despair, but nothing will separate us from the love the Father has bestowed upon us. There is nothing we had to do for our salvation and there is nothing that we have to do to maintain our salvation. God does it all.

Most Protestants understand these principles although they have their doctrine skewed by years of listening to Rome's work based errors. Feeling people need to go to confession, take grace, do penitence, pray the Rosary, etc., is nothing more than reducing Christianity down to religion with ceremonial steps to achieve the goal of salvation.

This was certainly not the view given to us by Our Lord.

I suspect this exchange is lost on Catholics.
174 posted on 10/17/2011 4:56:44 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; narses; Absolutely Nobama; Elendur; it_ürür; Bockscar; Mary Kochan; Bed_Zeppelin; ...
Just a small point of clarification in different salvation structures.

1) Catholics (and some Protestants) believe that once a person is saved they must maintain that gift given to them. There is a possibility that you could lose your salvation.

2) The "Once Saved Always Saved" Protestants look at salvation as a fix point of salvation. After that people are "free to choice" which way they want to go.

3) The "Perseverance of the Saints" Protestants believe that God saved you and God will keep you. And when you go off the beaten path, God will chasten and hasten you to either help you find your way or will call you home. But you will never be lost from the love of God who saved you in your most vilest state.

The first two views are based upon the egregious heresy of "free will"; one is capable of making correct and good choices. The last view is based upon an understanding that man with his sinful nature is wholly reliant upon the grace and mercy of God to guide us through this life.

It is an error and sin to think that man is ever capable of willfully choosing anything pleasing of God.

175 posted on 10/17/2011 5:24:01 PM PDT by HarleyD
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