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To: fishtank

We believe nearly everything you just posted.


44 posted on 10/05/2011 10:48:36 AM PDT by 47samurai (The last real conservative)
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To: 47samurai

Nonsense!

Christians believe that Jesus is The Creator - Mormons teach that Jesus was creatED. Something that is created can’t be the creator of ALL things.

Christians believe that Jesus is, was, and always will be the one and only God - Mormons teach that Jesus was created as a man, the literal physical offspring of a different diety, and earned his divinity as some point.

Very big differences...


45 posted on 10/05/2011 10:54:12 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: 47samurai

No you don’t. Jesus is a created being in LDS theology, not God Eternal.


60 posted on 10/05/2011 12:19:31 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: 47samurai; fishtank; Ripliancum; All
As a follow-up to my post #51, 47Samurai had earlier told Fishtank:

We believe nearly everything you just posted.

If people are going to begin to understand the Mormon "maze" of its beliefs about origins, you need to read part of the book, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith. This is a Mormon book compiled by one of its to-be "prophets," Joseph Fielding Smith, in 1938. I have a copy and here are some key quotes relating to Fishtank and 47Samurai's conversation:

* "If you tell them that God made the world out of something, they will call you a fool. But I am learned, and know more than all the world put together." (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 350)

(No wonder Mormons are so cocky)

* "There never was a time when there were not spirits; for they are co-equal with our Father in heaven." (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 353)

(So much for the doctrine of God/Jesus as "Creator" -- Mormons believe you and I are "co-equal with our Father in heaven"...no wonder such Mormon arrogance is so prominent!)

* "...I might with boldness proclaim from the house-tops that God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all...Intelligence is eternal and exists upon a self-existent principle." (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 354)

Wow! Just wow! Joseph Smith telling the world that "God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all" -- and all because Smith thought he knew "more than all the world put together." Yeah! What a "humble" uneducated country bumpkin that the Mormons like Ripliancum and 47Samurai try to portray Smith to be!!!

So tell us, Joseph Smith, how did you determine these things. They seem to come from the tip of your tongue. "This is good doctrine. It tastes good...I tell you these words of eternal life as they are given to me, you taste them..." (Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 355)

62 posted on 10/05/2011 12:25:41 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: 47samurai

It was my understanding that the LDS believes in a created Jesus.

Jesus is Eternal, Unchanging, He has been the Infinite Uncreated forever.


66 posted on 10/05/2011 12:44:41 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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