Posted on 10/03/2011 10:07:33 AM PDT by 47samurai
Also, would a Mormon ever know if they have been obedient enough to be fully redeemed or do they have to wait until they die to see God's judgement?
Smith bad.
well to be honest, this is not a problem for 2012 -- I despise Romney but because he's a RINO. he's just coincidentally a Mormon. If it was a real conservative who was a Mormon, I wouldn't be so sure, but against Romney it's easy -- he could be any religion and I'd still despise him.
Hilarious. Perhaps you should take your concern about the Religion Forum to the owner of this site.
If JimRob did not want the Religion Forum to exist, it would not exist.
You are preaching to wrong choir.
Yes, that is where we differ. Christians believe Christ has done everything required to pay for the sins of folks like us. He paid it "one time" on the cross as it says in Hebrews. Therefore we believe there is NO ACTION we can do as He has done it all.
James says that good works will follow the believer as a result of his faith. But this does not earn his salvation nor does it do anything but earn rewards in heaven.
TP, "redemption from sin requires actions" is Salvation by Works and not depending on Christ's work on the Cross ALONE. IT IS NOT PUTTING FAITH UPON CHRIST BUT UPON ONES OWN WORKS.
Think of it like this, You are before God, pleading "I did this and this and this and this" and He says "filty rags".
But think about this "Christ paid it all, He did it with His own blood, He did everything for me when I could do nothing for myself". He worked His good works through me by your Holy Spirit and I only want to throw the crown He gave me at His feet".
Which will please God, your works and attempts to expiate your own sin or Faith in Him and Him Alone that pleases God?Who gets the Glory, you or God?
And just so you know, I believe "God (the Father) is Spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth" just as the Lord Jesus Christ said. That God the Father was never a man.
I believe the Holy Spirit was never a man, and like God is Spirit. That the Holy Spirit, not a man, caused the Virgin Mary to conceive. And it COULD NOT BE BY MAN so that no SIN COULD BE ATTRIBUTED NOR INHERITED FROM MANKIND.
You see, that God in the Bible, is more powerful than mere man and the thought that God is a man who impregnated Mary. Isaiah (55) says it well of God "My thoughts are higher than your thoughts, and My Ways are Higher than your Ways". So the Lord Jesus was begotten not by the Flesh of mere men, but begotten the Second Adam - like the first - but this time BEING GOD.
Again, when I ranted, the post was under News, and was later moved to Religion. The reason there is a seperate Religion forum is because it is not always news, and this post absolutely wasn’t “news.”
Sorry. I’m throwing the flag on myself for piling on. Although it is a bit surprising you clicked on the thread given its title.
I appreciate your courtesy. :)
Truly, I only wrote that because scrolling through the news feed, every other post seemed attached to that thread, and I was aggravated because I was using my smartphone, and it is somewhat slow to load, and I just wanted to read something else. I am a SAHM with two little ones (and two big ones) and don’t have lots of time to read news, and it just drove me nuts, and I reacted. I almost never argue with anyone online, and in hindsight, wouldn’t have done it this time, either.
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