So you are conceding that the “Why ask anybody other than Jesus?” argument doesn’t apply.
You’re moving to the dead argument and a new argument that says we ask saints for what only God can supply, while Iscool is trying to say that asking somebody to pray for you is not, um,asking somebody to pray for you, because “for” really means “with” except when Catholics say it.
I’m just trying to get clear about where we are. I don’t want to spend a lot of time on the dead and the new argument and then get hit with the “praying for/with” thing again.
(*quick backchannel conference among the YOIOS crowd*)
Mark, Cronos, are you guys reading this page?