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To: D-fendr; RnMomof7
It's either a type of Christ or a pointing to Christ (not a type). My point was that since the Ark is definitely NOT God, making it a type would be more in the direction of blasphemy, responding to your charge of same. Mary is not God and carried God. The type here for Ark/Mary is more clear - and I believe, less blasphemous for the reason above.

Noticed that this needed another comment. The Ark of the Covenant was the ONLY way the Jewish people had to relate to Jehovah. It contains the the tablets that God gave to Moses of the commandments, Aaron's Rod and a golden pot of manna. ALL were representative of God's relationship and leading of the people. The Ark was carried by the Priests - only - ahead of the advancing people through Sinai, as it was God leading his people. God even spoke to Moses from between the two cherubim on the Ark's cover (Exodus 25:22). It was always carefully concealed from view (even from the eyes of the priests) wrapped with a veil of a blue cloth and animal skins as it was carried before them. No one could ever "see" God and live, which is why it was covered like this. It was carried in front of them in all the battles. It was the "power" of God that led them, fed them and defeated their enemies.

When they built the first Temple, the Ark was placed in the Holy of Holies and a three foot thick curtain shielded it from all view, with the exception of the High Priest who would enter once a year at The Day of Atonement. It was ALWAYS the representation of Jehovah. It did not, of course, contain or carry him, but was the way the people could relate to him with something tangible. It represented God to the people and was why the care was taken with who could carry it, touch it, see it and offer sacrifice upon the top of it called the Mercy Seat.

It certainly was a foreshadow of Jesus, who IS Jehovah INCARNATE. By his one-time sacrifice, the veil was torn, he was accessible to all, he could be seen and touched - without those who did perishing before his presence. God becoming flesh removed the barrier between us and now there is no more offering for sin because our sins are no longer covered, but removed from us, Jesus is our mediator with God the Father. Where the Ark was once the ONLY way of accessing the forgiveness of God, Jesus is the fulfillment of the whole purpose of the Ark of the Covenant - the presence and forgiveness of God. Through Christ we have been redeemed and justified and we are found IN Christ clothed in HIS righteousness.

I certainly think one could use the Ark of the Covenant as a simple comparison with Mary. The Ark carried the presence of God and she bore within her the incarnate God, but I think it is incorrect to say she was the fulfillment of what the Ark of the Covenant represented.

4,415 posted on 09/20/2011 10:34:43 PM PDT by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us.)
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To: boatbums; RnMomof7
Thanks for your reply:

I certainly think one could use the Ark of the Covenant as a simple comparison with Mary. The Ark carried the presence of God and she bore within her the incarnate God, but I think it is incorrect to say she was the fulfillment of what the Ark of the Covenant represented.

I think we agree on the typology and your statement.

4,416 posted on 09/20/2011 10:45:15 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: boatbums; RnMomof7
From my perspective, many Protestants miss part of the significance of the Incarnation. The Word became Flesh, through a woman, the Incarnate Word was born, had a mother.

There is no Incarnate Word as Christians believe without this birth, without the mother.

The Incarnation cannot be separated from the birth and therefore the mother. It is one event.

I may not be describing my thoughts precisely. Mother and Child describe, portray, ARE, the Incarnation. And without this, this single event as one whole, no Christ, no Christianity according to our faith.

4,417 posted on 09/20/2011 10:52:56 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: boatbums; RnMomof7
Perhaps this will help explain what I'm trying to communicate better. Take this icon:

Some protestants may see this as two subjects: BIG Mary, little christ. I see it as one subject: The Incarnation.

4,418 posted on 09/20/2011 10:56:17 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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