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To: Tennessee Nana
Wow, that seems to me to be an excessively nice distinction! The fruits of the spirit are not gifts? We earn them? You don't mean that, do you?

I thought it was we who were the works folks.

But I tell you what. You go ahead and be humble without praying for it. I'm obviously a VERY unfruited guy (ah, let me rephrase that ...), so I will ask, ask early and often.

Anyway, at least one reason I was referring to Del Val's Litany of Humility is that I think it a good meditation on what humility can be like, and how hard it is to desire it.

For those who do not 'get' Catholic conventions (and why should you?), remember we are ALL about vain repetitions (Ps 136), so the "Deliver me, Jesus," is repeated after each petition until we get to the new response,"Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it," and so on.

There's another issue here, though, one represented by the word "Hosanna." Strictly speaking, that's a petition. Save! Yet because of confidence in the Lord, it becomes a word of praise, of acclamation.

People say of us that we think our priests conjure God. This is an unserious charge, since the demands of monotheism, Biblical or not, indicate that if there's any conjuring to be done, God alone can do it. By what 'jus' can the Lord of all,or his Son, the true Pantocrator, be compelled, since all power and authority is His?

So, even if it be true that humility is a fruit and we have but to reach up and pluck it, we will still ask before we pluck.

4,334 posted on 09/20/2011 5:10:07 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Gifts of the Spirit are listed in 1 Corinthians 12. They are special abilities given to certain believers for the edifying of the body of Christ.

The fruit of the Spirit is the outworking of God’s character and nature in us as we are filled with the Spirit and yield to His leading.


4,387 posted on 09/20/2011 5:19:03 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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