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To: Iscool
It is not there as in a place.
You suggested that we were among those who say,”Lo, here is Christ.”
This shows we are not.

ALL the other things you say about us, true or not, have nothing to do with that simple thing.

You were mistaken. Your quote was irrelevant. What is so hard about that?

Oh Brother...The place and the object must be equal...Who says??? A philosopher..

When Aquinas says, "The Philosopher" he means Aristotle. But he is not quoting Aristotle as an authority whose mere pronouncement makes a thing so. Aristotle reasons well about space and place.

If a thing is bigger than its place, then onlypartof it is contained in its place, and the rest not. So its place is not its place. Which is absurd.

If a thing is smaller than its place,then its place is where it touches the other thing in its place, which is absurd.

Therefore the place and the object must be equal.

Yea, us little o dummies don't know nuthin'...

I didn't say that. You made a charge. I hadthe nerve not only to defend against it but to do so reasonably, showing that we do not think Jesus is "here." as in a place so tht one might say, "lo, here."

Evidently I am wrong for being right. Which is absurd.

Abuse is not argument, and therefore not persuasive.

1,947 posted on 09/08/2011 8:38:46 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In my Father's trailer park are many double-wides. (apologies to Iscool))
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To: Mad Dawg; Iscool
C.o.n.f.u.s.i.n.g.

Explain this to me MD:

"It is not inappropriate that the body of Christ at the same time be in heaven and upon all the altars on which the bread and the wine are consecrated. It is indeed inconsistent that the same body be at the same time in many places according to local presence: for it would be locally distant from itself and divided from itself. But any contradiction vanishes when the body is locally in one place only, and in another place according to the mode of substance; for then it is not distant or divided from itself. Now Christ's body is locally in heaven certainly, but it is not in the Eucharist locally, but according to the mode of substance. (A Manual of Dogmatic Theology {New York: Desclee Company, 1959}, vol. II,p 262. Catholic scholar Father A. Tanquerey provides this explanation of the Roman Catholic position.

Who says there's not simplicity in Christ?

1,950 posted on 09/08/2011 8:55:06 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Mad Dawg
showing that we do not think Jesus is "here." as in a place so tht one might say, "lo, here."

Doesn't matter whether you think Jesus is there or not...Notwithstanding your philosophical charge, you guys publically proclaim, 'Jesus is here'...Come into his presence and worship and eat him...

Whether the intellectual portion of your religion studies Aristotle or not would seem to make no difference...The average Catholic walks into the room expecting to see and eat a cracker which they are told has turned into the body of Jesus Christ...

2,006 posted on 09/08/2011 12:51:35 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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